Clans
28 Jun 18
Originally posted by @roma45I agree the bigger the challenge the more points should be given
Challenges are based on available players within the 200 rating band it's up to captains to set what they can. Vast majority is 2 or 3 player challenges nowadays.
I fail to see what that has to do with how points are split.
The bigger the challenge the bigger the reward that's fair is it not?
But this should be based on a challenge system not a games system
I fail to see how you are unable to see this
Originally posted by @padgerSeriously
I agree the bigger the challenge the more points should be given
But this should be based on a challenge system not a games system
I fail to see how you are unable to see this
I have been the one saying it's the result of the clan challenge tgat matters
While you have been saying closer challenges should be points spread more.
6-0 or 4-2 both examples are clan losing. The two games the losers won should never count.
But you have been saying for ages they should now you day they should not
Make up your mind
Originally posted by @roma45You do not say that at all you have pushed repeatedly for a games style system
Seriously
I have been the one saying it's the result of the clan challenge tgat matters
While you have been saying closer challenges should be points spread more.
6-0 or 4-2 both examples are clan losing. The two games the losers won should never count.
But you have been saying for ages they should now you day they should not
Make up your mind
I am saying it should be based on a challenge style system
I admit I have been trying to work out a games styles system but you put this right when you said about the way tennis is scored
Thank You
By the way if last year had been on challenges won plus 1 point for every game won Chess Troopers would have won
Originally posted by @padgerIf your aunty had a knob she would be your uncle.
You do not say that at all you have pushed repeatedly for a games style system
I am saying it should be based on a challenge style system
I admit I have been trying to work out a games styles system but you put this right when you said about the way tennis is scored
Thank You
By the way if last year had been on challenges won plus 1 point for every game won Chess Troopers would have won
You are obsessed with WHAT IFS.
The current rules are all that matters nothing else.
You are the one been harping on for years that a challenge that ends closer should be rewarded. Now you total back track
Two reasons
1) you are a total idiot.
2).You are winding me up
Best thing for me is to leave you in your own paranoid world.
Come on Sweden
Originally posted by @roma45A the current rules are not fit for purpose
If your aunty had a knob she would be your uncle.
You are obsessed with WHAT IFS.
The current rules are all that matters nothing else.
You are the one been harping on for years that a challenge that ends closer should be rewarded. Now you total back track
Two reasons
1) you are a total idiot.
2).You are winding me up
Best thing for me is to leave you in your own paranoid world.
Come on Sweden
B I may be a total idiot but you are the one who put me on the right track
C I am not trying to wind you up ,I am trying to make you see the sense of what I am saying
D ????
E that's a typical Scottish point of view ,Trying to wind up an Englishman ,Wrong nationality , Try again
Originally posted by @ponderableWhy not just make it simple
So how about a scoring System which caluclates the Ratio of won to lost games and puts that as a measure?
3 points for a challenge win :plus 1 point for every game won in that challenge
19 Jul 18
Originally posted by @padgerI thought you want a measure which would be not discerning between large and small Clans...maybe I misunderstood.
Why not just make it simple
3 points for a challenge win :plus 1 point for every game won in that challenge
In my opinion a winning percentage is simple btw 😉
Originally posted by @ponderableNo I want a system that doesn't give negative points as with the current one
I thought you want a measure which would be not discerning between large and small Clans...maybe I misunderstood.
In my opinion a winning percentage is simple btw 😉
There isn't a game in the world that gives negative points until you look at our system
If my way was adopted it would encourage more challenges with more people in that challenge
In the present system it is an advantage to only take on small challenges and to finish the challenge early
Originally posted by @padgerThis is just similar to the gross point system, except that you now give points to clans for losing challenges.
Why not just make it simple
3 points for a challenge win :plus 1 point for every game won in that challenge
There has to be a difference between winning and losing.
The current system, while not perfect, reflects this philosophy.
The current system also makes a drawn challenge worth fighting for.
Case in point.
Our clan recently completed a 9 player challenge where we needed to win the last game left to gain 9 points for a split challenge instead of losing 18 for a lost challenge.
A difference of 27 points !!
Guess what we did ??
We won that game !!
I have another game in a 4 player challenge that I intend to bring home for my clan.
To gain 4 points in a split instead of losing 8. A 12 point difference.
That is called incentive !!!
Maybe that is too Darwinian for some.
But it is what it is.
I am quite sure we have lost our share of challenges by one game.
But we take our losses as well as our wins like everyone else.
It's the same for everybody.
Originally posted by @padgerSo, double the amount of won points to the winning clan and do away with the negative points for the losing clan.
No I want a system that doesn't give negative points as with the current one
There isn't a game in the world that gives negative points until you look at our system
If my way was adopted it would encourage more challenges with more people in that challenge
In the present system it is an advantage to only take on small challenges and to finish the challenge early
There, all better now??
Originally posted by @shortcircuitNo
So, double the amount of won points to the winning clan and do away with the negative points for the losing clan.
There, all better now??
Because the end result is still rubbish
21 Jul 18
Take the football league
It is made up of matches ( challenges )
Goals ( games )
The current system is trying to make the best clan the one that scores the most goals
It should be the one that wins the most matches
There is not a league in the world that uses our system
Why ?
Because it doesn't make sense