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Originally posted by shavixmir
Yeah... Sweden well known for its great writers such as... uh... yeah...

John Irving.
Stephen King (you may think he's trash, but he can spin a yarn).
Joseph Heller.
Joseph Wambaugh.
Leon Uris.
Mark Twain.

Nope. I think the US has some fine writers. And calling Irving or Uris insular and ignorant is rather pathetic.

Bloody Swedes. They should stick to making DOGMA films I don't watch.
What's a DOGMA film?

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Americans must be writing about something. According to Arielle Eckstut and David Henry Sterry, in their book, "Putting Your Passion Into Print," the United States publishes approximately 150,000 books each year; best sellers represent less than 5% of Barnes & Noble's total sales.

Regarding your critique of "readers like me," I think you migh ...[text shortened]... orks of Orwell, Mencken, William F. Buckley, the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, etc.
Which translations do you have? Do you use NIV?

I have the Bible in Hebrew, in English of course, in Spanish, in Estonian, in Lithuanian, and in Finnish.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Yeah... Sweden well known for its great writers such as... uh... yeah...

John Irving.
Stephen King (you may think he's trash, but he can spin a yarn).
Joseph Heller.
Joseph Wambaugh.
Leon Uris.
Mark Twain.

Nope. I think the US has some fine writers. And calling Irving or Uris insular and ignorant is rather pathetic.

Bloody Swedes. They should stick to making DOGMA films I don't watch.
I am much more oriented to the "oldies".

Steinbeck, Fitzgerald, Hemingway...

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Originally posted by Seitse
Which translations do you have? Do you use NIV?

I have the Bible in Hebrew, in English of course, in Spanish, in Estonian, in Lithuanian, and in Finnish.
I prefer the King James version. The others are ones I had as a kid.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
What's a DOGMA film?
Don't mind Seitse. He just likes to mix up Danes and Swedes.

http://www.dogme95.dk/

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
What's a DOGMA film?
DOGMA is a Swedish (or Danish... is there a difference?) film style which is realistic. So, the actors wear their own clothes, the colour looks faded and pale and the dialogues are embarrassingly crap.

However, the genre is popular amongst pretentious people here in Europe.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Don't mind Seitse. He just likes to mix up Danes and Swedes.

http://www.dogme95.dk/
How come you managed to confuse shav with me?!?!

Mr. von Trier and I are pretty much mad at you.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
DOGMA is a Swedish (or Danish... is there a difference?) film style which is realistic. So, the actors wear their own clothes, the colour looks faded and pale and the dialogues are embarrassingly crap.

However, the genre is popular amongst pretentious people here in Europe.
Some are crap, some are good. I think it's an interesting attitude towards film-making AS LONG as pretentious snouts don't presume that this is what cinema should be like.

The Five Obstructions, for example, is excellent.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0354575/

The Idiots, however, I can't stand even though it's perhaps the most well-known Dogma film.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0154421/

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Originally posted by shavixmir
DOGMA is a Swedish (or Danish... is there a difference?) film style which is realistic. So, the actors wear their own clothes, the colour looks faded and pale and the dialogues are embarrassingly crap.

However, the genre is popular amongst pretentious people here in Europe.
Are you a hipster by any chance?

Wait, wrong question: Do you weight less than 80 kg and wear tight jeans?

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Originally posted by Palynka
Some are crap, some are good. I think it's an interesting attitude towards film-making AS LONG as pretentious snouts don't presume that this is what cinema should be like.

The Five Obstructions, for example, is excellent.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0354575/

The Idiots, however, I can't stand even though it's perhaps the most well-known Dogma film.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0154421/
What do you think about Breaking the Waves?

It pretty much placed Dogma on the spotlight. Well, part of the spotlight.

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Originally posted by Seitse
What do you think about Breaking the Waves?

It pretty much placed Dogma on the spotlight. Well, part of the spotlight.
It's supposedly not technically a Dogma film, but who cares? I love it.

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Originally posted by Palynka
It's supposedly not technically a Dogma film, but who cares? I love it.
Oh, I didn't know that. It's my fav from von Trier, actually. Still makes me cry.

I foresee you and me having a fight over The Idiots, though.

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DOGME, with an 'e'.

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Originally posted by Seitse
I foresee you and me having a fight over The Idiots, though.
Ugh, what a terrible movie.

I love "The Celebration" though.

Those two films are actually the only Dogme films I've ever seen.

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Originally posted by Seitse
Agreed.

Now let's go back: Do you think the U.S. is too insular to produce Nobel level literature?
The problem isn't insularity. The problem is that the best widely-known American writer just killed himself.

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