11 Oct 19
@moonbus saidHeh. Thanks!
Why Austria? Austria is neutral.
The extradition treaty between Austria and the USA can be found at:
https://internationalextraditionblog.com/2011/04/04/austria-extradition-treaty-with-the-united-states/
Note the following clauses:
"ARTICLE 4
POLITICAL AND MILITARY OFFENSES
1. Extradition shall not be granted if the offense for which extradition is requested ...[text shortened]... ll) Donald "Witch-Hunt" Trump, but there would be no quid pro quo, oh no, certainly no quid pro quo.
12 Oct 19
@sonhouse saidInnocent until proven guilty, right?
One way tickets to Austria, where that billionaire Rudi and that really gifted pair worked with.
Nothing to see here folks, go back to your homes........
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/11/politics/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-ukraine-impeachment/index.html
You don't think it has anything to do with them investigating the Bidens and the DNC in the Ukraine?
12 Oct 19
@metal-brain saidInnocent until proven guilty, right ?
Innocent until proven guilty, right?
You don't think it has anything to do with them investigating the Bidens and the DNC in the Ukraine?
@metal-brain saidIt's no surprise crooks and scoundrels would support Trump (a kindred spirit) and no surprise that they would try to help him manufacture dirt on Joe Biden to help him win re-election.
Innocent until proven guilty, right?
You don't think it has anything to do with them investigating the Bidens and the DNC in the Ukraine?
These same two were instrumental in getting Ambassador Yovanovitch removed because she didn't want to play ball with Giuliani's efforts. And then Trump had his political hack Sondland take over relations with the Ukrainian government, even though his position as Ambassador to the EU gives him no authority over such (Ukraine is not a member of the EU).
It's all coming out MB; this Trump coverup isn't going to hold though the administration is, as usual, trying to obstruct justice by withholding documents and trying to suppress testimony.
12 Oct 19
@no1marauder saidI don't know much about the support they allegedly gave and how much evidence there is against them, but as you pointed out there is no law against investigating (potential) political opponents.
It's no surprise crooks and scoundrels would support Trump (a kindred spirit) and no surprise that they would try to help him manufacture dirt on Joe Biden to help him win re-election.
These same two were instrumental in getting Ambassador Yovanovitch removed because she didn't want to play ball with Giuliani's efforts. And then Trump had his political hack Sondland ...[text shortened]... is, as usual, trying to obstruct justice by withholding documents and trying to suppress testimony.
"These same two were instrumental in getting Ambassador Yovanovitch removed because she didn't want to play ball with Giuliani's efforts."
So they did the same thing Biden did? That is pretty low. You have convinced me.
12 Oct 19
@metal-brain saidThere is a law against trying to get foreign governments to aid your election campaign. I have already cited it to you.
I don't know much about the support they allegedly gave and how much evidence there is against them, but as you pointed out there is no law against investigating (potential) political opponents.
"These same two were instrumental in getting Ambassador Yovanovitch removed because she didn't want to play ball with Giuliani's efforts."
So they did the same thing Biden did? That is pretty low. You have convinced me.
I'm not aware of Biden trying to get a US ambassador removed so an illegal scheme to influence a US election could be done. What is the source of your information?
The charges against Parnas and Fruman are not directly connected with the schemes of Giuliani and Trump regarding Biden, but have to do with other campaign finance violations. Still they might be able to give useful information to prosecutors and Congress investigating the conspiracy.
@Mott-The-Hoople
The Russians have hired the worse person ever for the job of convincing people everyone is bad but Trump, especially Hillary, Joe Biden, Hunter.....
You should move back to Moscow.
@Metal-Brain
Right now they are indicted. Nobody said anything about guilty yet, now it is a PILE of evidence.
Back to your hypocritical ways, supposedly denouncing Trump while at the same time bringing up fake crap already disproven about the Biden's.
I saw some repub senator crying about Hunter making 50,000 a month.
Sounds like jealousy to me.
I would LOVE to make 50K a month. Lots of Americans do already but nobody calls THEM out just for the fact of their income.
If that is their strongest shot they are coming out on the short end of the stick.
12 Oct 19
@no1marauder saidYou mean like Chinagate?
There is a law against trying to get foreign governments to aid your election campaign. I have already cited it to you.
I'm not aware of Biden trying to get a US ambassador removed so an illegal scheme to influence a US election could be done. What is the source of your information?
The charges against Parnas and Fruman are not directly connected with the schemes o ...[text shortened]... y might be able to give useful information to prosecutors and Congress investigating the conspiracy.
https://www.independentsentinel.com/lest-we-forget-hillarys-china-gate-scandal/
https://abcnews.go.com/International/fbi-arrests-chinese-millionaire-tied-clinton-scandal/story?id=33990683
12 Oct 19
@sonhouse saidWhat was disproven? Don't just say it, list it so we all know what you are claiming.
@Metal-Brain
Right now they are indicted. Nobody said anything about guilty yet, now it is a PILE of evidence.
Back to your hypocritical ways, supposedly denouncing Trump while at the same time bringing up fake crap already disproven about the Biden's.
I saw some repub senator crying about Hunter making 50,000 a month.
Sounds like jealousy to me.
I would LOVE to make 5 ...[text shortened]... f their income.
If that is their strongest shot they are coming out on the short end of the stick.
@metal-brain saidWhataboutism Chapter one million.
You mean like Chinagate?
https://www.independentsentinel.com/lest-we-forget-hillarys-china-gate-scandal/
https://abcnews.go.com/International/fbi-arrests-chinese-millionaire-tied-clinton-scandal/story?id=33990683
And a lot of what is in the first article is unadulterated BS, but if you want to discuss "Chinagate" based on a hack article written more than 4 years ago, start a thread about it.
@Metal-Brain
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/world/2019/10/10/trumps-biden-ukraine-natural-gas-conspiracy-theory-false-but-alive/3851728002/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/trump-pushing-baseless-conspiracy-about-bidens-china-here-s-what-n1062551
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-invention-of-the-conspiracy-theory-on-biden-and-ukraine
You DO like for us to do your research for you. That took AT LEAST 2 minutes.
But of course they are all fake news, enemy of the people, right?
My guess, you already know all about that conspiracy theory and won't even open the links I provided so you can continue your false narrative.
12 Oct 19
@sonhouse saidJust because there is no evidence now doesn't mean it doesn't exist and needs to be uncovered. That doesn't make a conspiracy theory false, all it does is show there is reasonable doubt.
@Metal-Brain
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/world/2019/10/10/trumps-biden-ukraine-natural-gas-conspiracy-theory-false-but-alive/3851728002/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/trump-pushing-baseless-conspiracy-about-bidens-china-here-s-what-n1062551
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-invention-of-the-conspiracy-theory-on-biden- ...[text shortened]... conspiracy theory and won't even open the links I provided so you can continue your false narrative.
You have to admit it all looks fishy though. Why shouldn't Hunter Biden be investigated. Joe too. He accepted $900,000 from Burisma. And where did all that missing money from US aid go? Why shouldn't people suspect that 900,000 was a kickback for letting all that money get embezzled?
Biden should be investigated for it.
12 Oct 19
@no1marauder saidNope. It is a matter of precedent. That makes it relevant.
Whataboutism Chapter one million.
And a lot of what is in the first article is unadulterated BS, but if you want to discuss "Chinagate" based on a hack article written more than 4 years ago, start a thread about it.