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We can work through my points if like, one at a time.

1/ The clotshot did not prevent you from catching wuflu.

True or False?

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https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/28/pfizer-vaccine-batches-in-the-eu-were-placebos-say-scientists/

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13998

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@wajoma said
We can work through my points if like, one at a time.

1/ The clotshot did not prevent you from catching wuflu.

True or False?
The purpose of vaccines is to boost the body's defense against disease, not "prevent" the possibility of infection.

Covid vaccines worked to help fight against the virus.

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@vivify said
The purpose of vaccines is to boost the body's defense against disease, not "prevent" the possibility of infection.

Covid vaccines worked to help fight against the virus.
Please go back to your thread about comic books.

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@vivify said
The purpose of vaccines is to boost the body's defense against disease, not "prevent" the possibility of infection.

Covid vaccines worked to help fight against the virus.
You are completely wrong. Covid vaccines do not help to fight against the virus. They allow the virus to infect you and spread it to others.

Vaccines used to "prevent" the possibility of infection when they were real vaccines and the new gene vaccines that do not. They allow the virus to infect and spread to others unlike real vaccines.

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@wajoma said
Please go back to your thread about comic books.
Meanwhile you have no idea how vaccines work.

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@vivify said
Meanwhile you have no idea how vaccines work.
You don't. You only believe what you want to believe.
Facts be damned.

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@vivify said
Meanwhile you have no idea how vaccines work.
vivfy blundered, you do realise the implications of this:

"...not "prevent" the possibility of infection."

Don't you.

Take my advice and stick with cartoon characters, you've been warned.

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@wajoma said
vivfy blundered, you do realise the implications of this:

"...not "prevent" the possibility of infection."

Don't you.

Take my advice and stick with cartoon characters, you've been warned.
Yawn.

You claim that a vaccine fails if you can still get sick from the infection it's meant to fight against. That's just plain ignorance.

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@metal-brain said
You are completely wrong. Covid vaccines do not help to fight against the virus. They allow the virus to infect you and spread it to others.

Vaccines used to "prevent" the possibility of infection when they were real vaccines and the new gene vaccines that do not. They allow the virus to infect and spread to others unlike real vaccines.
Look, I know that you are in all probability mentally ill, but all this conspiracy crap of yours is just that: crap. If Pfizer did something unethical, then yeah, let the company face the music in a court of law. But at this point I think "debating" with you, wajoma, or any of your ilk about the efficacy of the vaccines is not only a waste of time, it lends a dignity to your position to which it is not entitled.

Have you ever just stood back and simply considered how absurd it would be if even half of all your conspiracy theories were true? I mean, really.

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@vivify said
Yawn.

You claim that a vaccine fails if you can still get sick from the infection it's meant to fight against. That's just plain ignorance.
He scours obituaries for anybody who dies young and holds the vaccines responsible for each one. A master data analyst.

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@vivify said
Yawn.

You claim that a vaccine fails if you can still get sick from the infection it's meant to fight against. That's just plain ignorance.
What it means is that everyone that said you should take the juice to protect others was lying.

Fauci, lyinghorsefacekuntNZprimeminsterArdern, NZ Minister of Health, countless celebrities, countless wannabe celebrities, millions of vax junkies, the drug pushing drug Co's. the relentless propaganda campaign and untold millions of taxpayer money spent pushing drugs for already multi million/billion dollar mega drug Co's.

All lying.

The vax passport and clotshot mandates all based on lies.

If it doesn't stop you from catching wuflu, and it doesn't stop you transmitting wuflu, it all collapses.

That is the implications of saying:

"...not "prevent" the possibility of infection.

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@soothfast said
He scours obituaries for anybody who dies young and holds the vaccines responsible for each one. A master data analyst.
In the last 2 years excess death in NZ have gone up by 4000. If they could come up with some reason, something to blame it on you'd never hear the end of it, there'd be measures, and controls, and regulations to reduce excess deaths, there'd be advertising campaigns about suicide, or eating healthy, or getting exercise.

What could be responsible for the biggest sudden increase in excess deaths in NZ history?

Put your blinders back on, you're not going to like what you see.

BTW. The lists I've posted previously is not info collected from obits. It's people volunteering their story. They want their story heard.

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@wajoma said
What it means is that everyone that said you should take the juice to protect others was lying.

Fauci, lyinghorsefacekuntNZprimeminsterArdern, NZ Minister of Health, countless celebrities, countless wannabe celebrities, millions of vax junkies, the drug pushing drug Co's. the relentless propaganda campaign and untold millions of taxpayer money spent pushing drugs for alrea ...[text shortened]... es.

That is the implications of saying:

"...not "prevent" the possibility of infection.
Yup. You have no idea how vaccines work.

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@wajoma said
In the last 2 years excess death in NZ have gone up by 4000. If they could come up with some reason, something to blame it on you'd never hear the end of it, there'd be measures, and controls, and regulations to reduce excess deaths, there'd be advertising campaigns about suicide, or eating healthy, or getting exercise.

What could be responsible for the biggest sudden in ...[text shortened]... not info collected from obits. It's people volunteering their story. They want their story heard.
Ooooooooohh, 4000.

If the vaccines had not come out when they did, over 1 million more people would have died of Covid in the US alone. Some sources say the vaccines saved 3 million lives in the US alone, and over 20 million worldwide.

I'd say that is significant.

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