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12 Mar 23
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@wildgrass saidYou are right I am writing about a specific narrative. C'mon, it is indeed important, as it took rated a lot of reporting, I am just bringing the slime of editing-to-deceive to the inquiring minds such as yourself, because you did not likely watch Carlson.
Yes you are trusting a commentator. This tape was stitched together from thousands of hours of different cameras and time points in order to push a specific narrative.
I'm fascinated by the myopia here. How can you ignore all the other videos? I have heard before that the human mind does not seek truth naturally; rather it seeks familiarity. Critical thinking teaches you ...[text shortened]... lizations, obvious signs of criminal actions and intents. Hundreds of people jailed . Wow! Tourists?
So, I am surprised you are suggesting how YOU think that I have written my post, that I should jump on Marauder's coat tails about crimes that were committed....mostly in the yard. You see, it is boring, you have been all over it for 2 years,
I simply thought I would enlighten the boring Jan 6 posts . Yes, I know there were crimes, I also don't feel sorry for the idiot girl who was killed, I think she was asking for it. So y'all can just read the Jan 6 feeds and discuss them, it just does not interest ole average Joe..
Curious.......your comment that it was stitched? If one has to select certain parts of thousands of hours, I guess they did stitch them together, You say that as if it is nefarious. That is not nice! Let's say they had not done it....Then ,we would never known that he media did indeed edit the earlier tapes that we have seen. They intended to deceive, Wildness. But, you do no care. So I guess my post is to point out that you do not care!!???
12 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidWe watched it live Joe. We heard first hand accounts from people who were there. That's not media bias. Stop with the gaslighting.
You are right I am writing about a specific narrative. C'mon, it is indeed important, as it took up a lot of TV hours, I am jus bringing the slime of editing-to-deceive to the inquiring minds such as yourself, because you did not likely watch Carlson.
So, I am surprised you are suggesting how YOU think that I have written my post, that I should jump on Marauder's c ...[text shortened]... ceive, Wildness. But, you do no care. So I guess my post is to point out that you do not care!!???
12 Mar 23
@wildgrass saidThen you can tell us what viking did rate to 4 yrs
We watched it live Joe. We heard first hand accounts from people who were there. That's not media bias. Stop with the gaslighting.
12 Mar 23
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@averagejoe1 saidYou're splitting hairs on the severity of sentencing guidelines. This is a fair point within a discussion about criminal justice reform. Probably the punishment was too harsh, but I'm not a lawyer or judge or lawmaker. Some of it seems arbitrary to me too, like people doing hard time for possession etc. There's obviously lots and lots of examples of criminals spending seemingly way too much time in jail for non violent crimes too.
Then you can tell us what viking did rate to 4 yrs
That's not what I took from your original post. But fair point.
12 Mar 23
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@averagejoe1 saidThis was covered in the other thread; he pushed past a line of police, entered the Capitol building through a broken door knowing it was illegal, remained in the building though repeatedly instructed to leave and then left a threatening note addressed to the Vice President in the Senate Chamber.
Then you can tell us what viking did rate to 4 yrs
Moreover, he pled guilty knowing what his sentence (which was within federal sentencing guidelines for his crime, which is punishable by up to 20 years in prison) would be.
EDIT: Actually, his 41 month sentence was at the lowest range of the sentencing guidelines. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/17/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-sentence-522807#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThere%20are%20a%20lot%20of%20people%20on%20Jan.,the%20felony%20obstruction%20count%20he%20pleaded%20guilty%20to.
12 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidWhat about all rhe barking about trump, jan-6, etc. ?
I know what that old adage means now. You fellas are really barking, you have been blindsided. AG Meritt Garland is on tape saying 5 officers were killed on Jan 6. Five officers were not killed that day, he lied. One just simply died, natural causes, Officer Sicknick.
Do you know that Anderson Cooper (CNN Tucker counterpart) lied flat out when he said Officer Sickni ...[text shortened]... ottom of this.
What did the Viking do to warrant 4 years? You fellers do not answer questions .
Hurt dogs?
13 Mar 23
@no1marauder saidOf course pushing thru the open door was illegal, but that was an action from the yard through the steps to the front door.
This was covered in the other thread; he pushed past a line of police, entered the Capitol building through a broken door knowing it was illegal, remained in the building though repeatedly instructed to leave and then left a threatening note addressed to the Vice President in the Senate Chamber.
Moreover, he pled guilty knowing what his sentence (which was within feder ...[text shortened]... 20a%20lot%20of%20people%20on%20Jan.,the%20felony%20obstruction%20count%20he%20pleaded%20guilty%20to.
Then you jump to' instruction to leave'. Help me Rhonda. The CP was showing him to the tea room for coffee as far as I am concerned. You must not have seen the video that Tucker shared with the world.
I am sure you are totally correct about his sentence, though we dont know what predicated it and whether his lawyers caved. Did hey tell hn to do the wrong thing? Why don't you and Wildgrass discuss the what ifs till you are blue in the face, I am discussing the UNEDITED tape that Tucker put out. . No WAY he would have edited it to suit him, it would have cost him his job. Be real.
13 Mar 23
@shavixmir saidSome crimes happened on Jan 6th, but I dont know anything about it, I just let the law take care of it. Some people spend hours writing about 'what they think '''' I could never do that. Do you want me to write about all The bike riders in Netherlands getting into trouble?? No society is perfect. Over here , a few horrible people charged the capitol, for their own reasons, maybe they had a day off, and a poster was going to waste. It has nothing to do with you and me. We will watch them get there just punishment for doing that. But why in the hell write about it post ad nauseum??
What about all rhe barking about trump, jan-6, etc. ?
Hurt dogs?
Let's write about ....soimething else. You pick it!!
13 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidLMAO! You're the most gullible fool in the world. McCarthy gave him "more than 40,000 hours of security footage from the January 6 attack on Congress." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/12/kevin-mccarthy-jan-6-footage-tucker-carlson-fox-news
Of course pushing thru the open door was illegal, but that was an action from the yard through the steps to the front door.
Then you jump to' instruction to leave'. Help me Rhonda. The CP was showing him to the tea room for coffee as far as I am concerned. You must not have seen the video that Tucker shared with the world.
I am sure you are totally correct a ...[text shortened]... er put out. . No WAY he would have edited it to suit him, it would have cost him his job. Be real.
Did he show 40,000 hours of tape? So, of course, it was edited.
Pushing false narratives on Fox News doesn't get you fired; it's your job. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/03/fox-news-hosts-dominion-lawsuit-documents.html
13 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidYOU started two threads in Debates within two days after Tucker Carlson's show about January 6th, but now you don't want to talk about it?????
Some crimes happened on Jan 6th, but I dont know anything about it, I just let the law take care of it. Some people spend hours writing about 'what they think '''' I could never do that. Do you want me to write about all The bike riders in Netherlands getting into trouble?? No society is perfect. Over here , a few horrible people charged the capitol, for their own r ...[text shortened]... the hell write about it post ad nauseum??
Let's write about ....soimething else. You pick it!!
13 Mar 23
@no1marauder saidMy point above, guess, now comes down to your definition of 'edited'.
LMAO! You're the most gullible fool in the world. McCarthy gave him "more than 40,000 hours of security footage from the January 6 attack on Congress." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/12/kevin-mccarthy-jan-6-footage-tucker-carlson-fox-news
Did he show 40,000 hours of tape? So, of course, it was edited.
Pushing false narratives on Fox News doesn't get ...[text shortened]... your job. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/03/fox-news-hosts-dominion-lawsuit-documents.html
The 90,000 hours of tape covered 80% criminality in the yard. Frankly, I am astounded that you waste hours of your life talking about it to a land of anonymity. Come down to earth....Please!
So yes, no argument, tucker picked out the viking escorted around by CP. THAT is what I wrote about . Call me gullible? 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
Oh, I see now, there are 2 different issues. Mine, which is the subject of this thread, and yours, which is NOT the subject of this thread. Go Do Your Own Thread!!!! 😠I could just scream!
13 Mar 23
@AverageJoe1
In other words, you STILL believe everything FUKKER CARLSEN says.
Did you not hear the part where ONE THOUSAND people have been arrested?
Sound like a peaceful protest? Did you maybe forget the cop being squashed in the doorway or the people who crapped inside and threw poop on the walls?
And breaking windows to get in?
How does an apparent adult get so duped into thinking exactly what Carlsen wants you to think?
13 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidYou asked three times in this thread including in your OP:
My point above, guess, now comes down to your definition of 'edited'.
The 90,000 hours of tape covered 80% criminality in the yard. Frankly, I am astounded that you waste hours of your life talking about it to a land of anonymity. Come down to earth....Please!
So yes, no argument, tucker picked out the viking escorted around by CP. THAT is what I wrote about ...[text shortened]... which is NOT the subject of this thread. Go Do Your Own Thread!!!! 😠I could just scream!
AJ: What did the Viking do to warrant 4 years? You fellers do not answer questions .
So, that's suddenly "NOT the subject of this thread."?
13 Mar 23
@no1marauder saidEdit: Condense or otherwise Modify. I have to believe he did not modify it, for fear of big time retribution. So he clipped out enough stuff for me to conclude Viking as a normal non-raging liberal, smiling and chatting with police whom he seemed totally comfortable with. The views of him mouth wide-open with a primal yell were posed by him, as you can see the camera people encouraging him to do it. All show, don't you think?
LMAO! You're the most gullible fool in the world. McCarthy gave him "more than 40,000 hours of security footage from the January 6 attack on Congress." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/12/kevin-mccarthy-jan-6-footage-tucker-carlson-fox-news
Did he show 40,000 hours of tape? So, of course, it was edited.
Pushing false narratives on Fox News doesn't get ...[text shortened]... your job. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/03/fox-news-hosts-dominion-lawsuit-documents.html
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@no1marauder saidEasy, To you Jan 6 is about the entire day in and around the capitol. Go for it, maybe start a 19th thread about it. Myself, I have easily ignored the Jan 6 fracas, where I am sure crimes and misdemeanors were committed.. These people peed on the ground, which is illegal. Lot of stuff, Marauder. If one person hit my friend there, I would want him thrown in jail.
YOU started two threads in Debates within two days after Tucker Carlson's show about January 6th, but now you don't want to talk about it?????
But I have not cared about spending my time on that slew of Posts. Lot of hours, man, to anonymous people. My interest was peaked when I saw the views of INSIDE the capitol, that is what I have written about.