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Originally posted by zeeblebot
hmmm ... it's open season on babies, then .... bust into a hospital nursery and whack 'em all ...

oops, the Supreme Court says it's not.
You should write science fiction. Or some of those gruesome murder novels. You've got quite an imagination!

And thank God the supreme court outlawed that late term abortion procedure, because if they hadn't well... I guess people would have just kept on bursting into hospitals and "wacking babies". Oh that's right, no one has ever done that in the real world.

Your hyperbole knows no bounds...

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innocent life shall not be killed.[/b]
ya its murder, and there is alot of woman doing it, of course their going to try and rationalize it. its not like their going to bite the bullet and say "im a murderer" thats why they come up with this "person" sh@t defence.

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The classical definition of a person is "a human being regarded as an individual." In modern usage, the term "person" is subject to dispute and re-interpretation based on alternate definitions. This is especially so for uses that are not necessarily synonymous with the classical definition of human or human being.

For example, for purposes of legal rights, at least in some jurisdictions, a corporation may be treated as a "person" under the law. In the fields of philosophy, theology, and bioethics, the definition of a person may exclude biological human entities (such as human embryos, or deformed human fetuses that lack major portions of the brain, or adult humans lacking higher brain functions).

These alternative definitions of what constitutes a "person" include a wide and varying range of alternative defining characteristics, some of which have evolved historically, and continue to shift with time and social context. Some other characteristics used to define a 'person' include personal identity, self-awareness, individuality, and a sense of self that persists through time. Other views centre around the degree to which properties such as agency (both human agency and moral agency) and rights are recognized and acknowledged in society or enforcable by law. The recognition of status as a person is known as personhood.

The inquiry into what it means to be a 'person' is the subject of considerable analysis and debate within diverse fields such as religion, medicine, ethics, economic and political theory, human rights, and animal rights.

The establishment of 'personhood' represents a complex issue that covers a wide swath of human activities and discourse. Generally, the issue can be categorized by the underlying intended uses of the term "person".

Such intended uses include:

Analytic: definitions or prescriptive rules used to delineate personhood in a falsifiable formal system;
Normative: moral or deontological arguments to advocate fair and equitable treatment for recognized classes of sentient beings;
Conceptual: descriptive, taxonomical, or epistemological inquiry into the fundamental nature, limitations, and scope of personhood; especially as it relates to the examination of living organisms or other intelligences;
Metaphysical: esoteric or mystical exposition of personhood; especially as it relates to religion, spirituality, or mythical views and beliefs outside ordinary human experience
Artistic: literary, rhetorical or allegorical devices to convey personhood; especially as it relates to fantasy and science fiction[3]
Discourse on personhood may combine different elements of the previous categories in order to coincide with a particular viewpoint or academic theory. For example, a legal scholar and economist might define a person as "any being with the neurological prerequisites to understand moral consequences and take his life morally seriously." (Markovits) The conceptual and normative elements could then be incorporated into established legal doctrine and economic theory, both of which assume some level of individual choice and personal responsibility.

The normative principle of absolutism is often combined with an analytic definition of persons as co-equal participants in a given society, based on citizenship, nationality or common humanity. This combination is very common in such instruments as the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Analytic definitions
A person can have recognition, existence and legal capacity under the law (legal personhood). There are various legally operative definitions for personhood, but they all rely on formal, prescriptive definitions that must eventually be evaluated and falsifiable. Most such definitions form the basis of specific rights that may be exercised or enforced (such as human rights, custody, conservatorship and suffrage). Such definitions may also impose obligations or duties which carry a penalty if they are breached.

Some legally operative definitions of 'person' go beyond the scope of establishing rights and obligations for individual human beings. For example, in many jurisdictions, any artificial legal entity (like a school, business, or non-profit organization) is considered a juristic person. As another example, the United States Constitution has historically applied different definitions of 'person' for the purpose of allotting seats in the House of Representatives.

Normative views
Recognition as a 'person' is significant in society because it goes to the heart of many debates over the status, respect, rights, and treatments, which are obligatory to different types of living beings. It is closely connected to the societal concept that sufficiently intelligent or self-aware beings should be respected and have their rights enforced for this reason, whereas a degree of exploitation is permissible for entities lacking it. Such exploitation has at times taken the form of slavery or medical torture for humans, and cruelty and vivisection for animals. Personhood is directly connected to issues such as rights and the capability to protect those rights by law or to have them protected on one's behalf if incapable.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
The classical definition of a person is "a human being regarded as an individual." In modern usage, the term "person" is subject to dispute and re-interpretation based on alternate definitions. This is especially so for uses that are not necessarily synonymous with the classical definition of human or human being.

For example, for purposes of legal ...[text shortened]... aw or to have them protected on one's behalf if incapable.

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Originally posted by Jay Joos
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If I am offered a cut n' paste, I respond with the same.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
If I am offered a cut n' paste, I respond with the same.
Still........😴

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Originally posted by Nemesio
I have consulted with an oracle, read the leaves of tea in my cup, and had a seance with two dead
saints who tell me that he both can't and won't.

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How right I was...

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