16 Aug 05
A couple of months ago, I went through this abstinance program at my high school. I signed an abstinance pledge (not because I wanted to, but because I would never hear the end of it if I didn't). I do realize that the only safe way not to transmit STDs is abstinance, but preaching about the evils of condom use isn't helping anything. The fact is, people who make abstinence pledges are likely to break them. Wouldn't it be better to teach abstinance AND methods of safe sex? Then, if someone wants to partake of sexual activity, they would do it in a more safe way. This is just common sense. Why is the method above not taught? I go to school to learn about facts, not about myths.
16 Aug 05
Originally posted by socialist1917I agree. Abstinance is the best, but not teaching about safe sex is ignoring reality. Teens will have sex and most parents are in denial about that. Plus They think that teaching you about contraceptives means they are incouraging you to have sex. When I have kids, sure I would like them to wait, but if they choose to I hope they will be safe about it.
A couple of months ago, I went through this abstinance program at my high school. I signed an abstinance pledge (not because I wanted to, but because I would never hear the end of it if I didn't). I do realize that the only safe way not to transmit STDs is abstinance, but preaching about the evils of condom use isn't helping anything. The fact is, ...[text shortened]... nse. Why is the method above not taught? I go to school to learn about facts, not about myths.
p.s I don't know where you went to school but in Canada we were taught all about safe sex. As far as I can remember there was only one girl who got knocked up at 16.
16 Aug 05
Originally posted by socialist1917That kinda explains a lot. The thing is I consider myself an conservative, I also beleive ALL knowledge is good. Maybe you should come to Canada for a while. If you don't mind the cold it can be a pretty cool place to live. Pun not intended.
I went to school in Knoxville, TN, The South, United States. I live in the so called "Bible Belt". Everybody at my school seems to accept this incorrect teaching. Only my liberal friends and myself question the abstinance only teaching.
17 Aug 05
Originally posted by socialist1917Do you think it should be taught at all? Shouldn't something like that
A couple of months ago, I went through this abstinance program at my high school. I signed an abstinance pledge (not because I wanted to, but because I would never hear the end of it if I didn't). I do realize that the only safe way not to transmit STDs is abstinance, but preaching about the evils of condom use isn't helping anything. The fact is, ...[text shortened]... nse. Why is the method above not taught? I go to school to learn about facts, not about myths.
come from the homes the kids come out of instead of the state?
Kelly
17 Aug 05
Originally posted by KellyJayOh absolutely. It would be better coming from the parents. However some parents are too embarassed to do it, or lack proper knowledge. Some prefer to keep their heads in the sand. I'm not sure about other countries, or other peoples experiences, but in school here we were taught by a health nurse from the health region. But my parents had already answered most of my questions.
Do you think it should be taught at all? Shouldn't something like that
come from the homes the kids come out of instead of the state?
Kelly
17 Aug 05
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Originally posted by CanadaguyIs it the states job or the parents? If it is the parents, than let the
Oh absolutely. It would be better coming from the parents. However some parents are too embarassed to do it, or lack proper knowledge. Some prefer to keep their heads in the sand. I'm not sure about other countries, or other peoples e ...[text shortened]... egion. But my parents had already answered most of my questions.
parents do their job and the state shouldn't have a hand in it! Just
having the state take a side or a position is like the state telling
us how to act in the bed room. It should leave that subject to the
parents. Not much different than prayer in school in my opinion.
Kelly
17 Aug 05
Originally posted by KellyJayShould schools scrap all their Health classes altogether because some fanatic might get offended?
Is it the states job or the parents? If it is the parents, than let the
parents do their job and the state shouldn't have a hand in it! Just
having the state take a side or a position is like the state telling
us how to act in the bed room. It should leave that subject to the
parents. Not much different than prayer in school in my opinion.
Kelly
17 Aug 05
Originally posted by KellyJayI'm advocating a combination of the two. I'D prefer the parents but if the parents are lacking the resources, or the courage then why not the state. Also the parents can decide if they want their kids to take Sex-Ed in school. In my case we had to get our parents to sign a forn saying it was OK. My parents though that a little more information wouldn't hurt.
Is it the states job or the parents? If it is the parents, than let the
parents do their job and the state shouldn't have a hand in it! Just
having the state take a side or a position is like the state telling
us how to act in the bed room. It should leave that subject to the
parents. Not much different than prayer in school in my opinion.
Kelly
17 Aug 05
Originally posted by KellyJaySince its really the parents' job to educate their children we should just do away with schools altogether right, KellyJay?
Is it the states job or the parents? If it is the parents, than let the
parents do their job and the state shouldn't have a hand in it! Just
having the state take a side or a position is like the state telling
us how to act in the bed room. It should leave that subject to the
parents. Not much different than prayer in school in my opinion.
Kelly
17 Aug 05
Originally posted by CanadaguyWhat resources are required for telling kids about sex?
I'm advocating a combination of the two. I'D prefer the parents but if the parents are lacking the resources, or the courage then why not the state. Also the parents can decide if they want their kids to take Sex-Ed in school. In my case we had to get our parents to sign a forn saying it was OK. My parents though that a little more information wouldn't hurt.
It isn't like this is something new to the human race, we have
known about sex for quite some time now.
Kelly
17 Aug 05
Originally posted by KellyJayIt's called arguing by analogy but since you've never presented a logical argument, you wouldn't know.
Didn't say that! I guess you are doing your mind reading thing again.
Kelly
They're telling kids how to avoid diseases, nothing more or less. Someone who would object to that is a fanatic, IMO. Would you rather see kids dying of AIDS or using a condom, Mr. Not-a-Fanatic?
17 Aug 05
Originally posted by KellyJayResources such as INFORMATION. Information about specific diseases and their symptoms. My parents wern't doctors, so all they could warn me about was diseases without being specific. We didn't have the internet when I was growing up, so my parents taught us the best they could. When our schools taught us, the nurse could tell us about specific diseases and viruses like AIDS, and Herpes, and what not that my parents were incapable of telling me.
What resources are required for telling kids about sex?
It isn't like this is something new to the human race, we have
known about sex for quite some time now.
Kelly