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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
What's the political cost to withdrawal?
Appearing weak, not achieving victory. Mission not accomplished.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
That's fine, it's cool, this is a bipartisan victory. Both Bush and Obama are being very mature about this.
Well, except for Bush declining Obama's invite to attend the 9-11 ceremony because he felt Obama "didn't give him enough credit"

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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
Well, except for Bush declining Obama's invite to attend the 9-11 ceremony because he felt Obama "didn't give him enough credit"
Ouch!

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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
Well, except for Bush declining Obama's invite to attend the 9-11 ceremony because he felt Obama "didn't give him enough credit"
Yep, Obama and the Dems drag "W" through the mud, and still do, and expect him to brush himself off and celebrate the event that they all hope will put Obama back in the White House.

I suppose if they had stuck to their guns and prosecuted "W" as a war criminal like they said they would they could drag him there in chains if they so chose.

Meanwhile, what do you say Obama takes out a few more countries in the Middle East....with UN approval of course. We all know that UN approval makes any war a good and decent war to wage.

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Originally posted by dryhump
Trust me, pulling out [b]never works.[/b]
These political wars never work. If they really want to "win", they need to take out any adjacent countries that they are fighting such as Iran and Pakistan.

Case in point is the Allied conquest of Germany. It took nearly a decade to help quell insurgencies, and that is without any bordering countries assisting them.

North Korea and Vietnam are other examples of failed political wars. As the addage goes, what does not kill you makes you stronger.

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Originally posted by whodey
Case in point is the Allied conquest of Germany. It took nearly a decade to help quell insurgencies, and that is without any bordering countries assisting them.
Talk us through this particular historical perspective of yours.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Phillipines, Puerto Rico, Israel, Taiwan, Iraq, Great Britain perhaps?
What about Canada ?, oh no , from my history i seem to remember you got your back sides kicked back across the border ,plus your whitehouse burned to a cinder trying to make it one more of your states !

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Originally posted by FMF
Talk us through this particular historical perspective of yours.
http://golos.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/history-repeats-itself-german-nazi-werwolf-insurgency-after-ww2/

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Originally posted by whodey
Yep, Obama and the Dems drag "W" through the mud, and still do, and expect him to brush himself off and celebrate the event that they all hope will put Obama back in the White House.

I suppose if they had stuck to their guns and prosecuted "W" as a war criminal like they said they would they could drag him there in chains if they so chose.

Meanwhile, ...[text shortened]... proval of course. We all know that UN approval makes any war a good and decent war to wage.
Please provide a link to Obama and the Democrats dragging Bush through the mud regarding the Bin Laden thing. Thanks.

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Originally posted by whodey
Case in point is the Allied conquest of Germany. It took nearly a decade to help quell insurgencies, and that is without any bordering countries assisting them.


http://golos.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/history-repeats-itself-german-nazi-werwolf-insurgency-after-ww2/
You think that link is a credible source?

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Originally posted by whodey
Yep, Obama and the Dems drag "W" through the mud, and still do, and expect him to brush himself off and celebrate the event that they all hope will put Obama back in the White House.

I suppose if they had stuck to their guns and prosecuted "W" as a war criminal like they said they would they could drag him there in chains if they so chose.
Please provide a link to Obama saying he would "drag Bush in chains to have him prosecuted as a war criminal". Thanks.

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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
Please provide a link to Obama and the Democrats dragging Bush through the mud regarding the Bin Laden thing. Thanks.
Please note that I said, "Obama AND the Dems". It would be political suicide for a viable candidate like Obama to spew such filth, so he has others do it for him. I think we both can find links to that.

As for blaming "W", it will be and has been the tactic used by Obama to wag his finger at the "mess" left him as to why things are out of sorts.

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Originally posted by whodey
Please note that I said, "Obama AND the Dems". It would be political suicide for a viable candidate like Obama to spew such filth, so he has others do it for him. I think we both can find links to that.
So you have immediately distanced yourself from the claim you yourself made a couple of posts ago, on realizing you cannot provide any links to substantiate it?

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Originally posted by phil3000
What about Canada ?, oh no , from my history i seem to remember you got your back sides kicked back across the border ,plus your whitehouse burned to a cinder trying to make it one more of your states !
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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Appearing weak, not achieving victory. Mission not accomplished.
How do you define "victory"?

We do NOT appear weak at the moment.

Mission accomplished.

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