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Originally posted by Varg
Alcohol loosens inhibitions.
This can be a good thing, except for if you are an aggressive or violent person. Normally, social conventions would stop you from belting the hell out of a total stranger. But alcohol makes you ignore social conventions, hence the violent drunks.
I strongly believe alcohol will not make a person violent unless the have a propensit ...[text shortened]... in my nature.
Unfortunately, it is for a lot of people. Those people should take up marijuana.
Marijuana is illegal most places. In the US, they can take everything you thought you had, if caught with possession, because it is an illegal narcotic (schedule 5 narcotic, hallucinogen). Fighting drunk isn't a great idea. I've done it with my father, but there were other factors that contributed to it. I'm always calm despite alcohol. Hell, I never talk while I'm at work unless spoken to because that is how I was brought up.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
true hard-core alcoholics do live in the hardest places in life. their addiction robs everything from around them. the people who love them, their jobs, everything. this has never happened to myself, but i have seen it happen.

they have nobody who loves them and life does not hold the joys that so many of us take for granted. they are trapped, and most peo ...[text shortened]... lp them out. they are more concerned at what harm those people could do to support their habit.
Any drug can do that. I watch my father fall into crack/cocaine. So don't act like alcohol is the only drug that causes this problem.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
true hard-core alcoholics do live in the hardest places in life. their addiction robs everything from around them. the people who love them, their jobs, everything. this has never happened to myself, but i have seen it happen.

they have nobody who loves them and life does not hold the joys that so many of us take for granted. they are trapped, and most peo ...[text shortened]... abit, and the expected flip-outs they do have for living a life too hard that they cannot help.
And you know what? People loved my father but he decided that getting high was a priority. At one time, I could carry on a conversation with him but now he can't remember what he asked me two minutes ago.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
yep, any drug can. i'm only speaking about alcohol because i know more about it than other drugs from experience.

i love alcoholics for the way they can fight, for the hard times they been through, and for the hope they can get out and into life with more to offer than others in specific areas.
My pap (grandfather) is a drunk. He lost everything he owned in 1981. Without relying on anyone else, he pulled himself out of the gutter. Now he has his own place, cars, etc.

It doesn't make you a man if you drink. It doesn't make you a man if you screw anything with legs. What makes you a man is that when you are in the gutter and say "I don't know this man in the mirror and I BETTER change that" and you do something about. That's what makes you a man.

People use alcohol as an excuse. When you do that, you have a problem.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
an alcoholics problems arn't only alcohol.
You know that I have drank myself stupid when I've been down in out. The problem with this is that in the morning your problems are still there. When you stand up and take responsibility for what you did, the world isn't nearly as bad as you thought it was.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
yes, you are correct again.

i'm talking from experience from some of the alcoholics who are friends of mine. they know they don't want to be there, and they fight to get out. i guess i try an plant a seed in them, so they will have the desire and hope to get out. i don't play around much with what others have screwed up so much.

i believe if you have ...[text shortened]... lcohol addiction or similar then if you keep on at it day by day you will eventually succeed.
I'm an alcoholic. I'm not proud of that fact but I get up and do what I have to in the morning.

As for your friends, they have to decide that enough is enough. They have have to decide that the bottle IS NOT the answer. When you abuse a substance to the point that it controls you, you MUST regain control of yourself because death is the only outcome.

As for your statement about wanting to overcome an addiction, there is a reason why my father is jail. He won't change so let him rot in jail for his crimes.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
yeah, it's so stupid ain't it. threaten/hurt yourself or others and people start caring.
I know it is asinine. I still do it though. And I don't hurt anyone else, physically. I know I have hurt people emotionally. That was before I gained a control of my problem.

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Originally posted by 7ate9
yep, thats what they do, THEY deceide they don't want to. it still takes a long time, but when people make a decision like that you can notice changes in their life. up-down, up-down. day by day, but overall they walking in the right direction and like i'm pretty sure some of them will make it out.
Well, I hope they can. I know I can. It just takes something that will cause it. If I were to have a child, I'd stop the day I found out.

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To see the effects of drugs on humans, look up Keith Richards.

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