06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @no1marauderSo you are saying only the statement from Mattis is recent?
The statement from Kelly isn't even recent; it was issued back in April. http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/385558-nbc-kelly-has-called-trump-an-idiot
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @shavixmirhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here
Surely you see that this is not normal?
Why the hell so many of you defend him is completely bizarre.
If only there was an historic example of sheeple blindly following madness!
Sinclair Lewis wrote the book in 1935. Did he have a time machine?
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @kewpieNo. Humans just don't Change that much...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here
Sinclair Lewis wrote the book in 1935. Did he have a time machine?
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @shavixmirUS foreign policy was never normal. Invading countries does not benefit most Americans.
Just read what trump tweets.
Just look at the absurd things he’s done.
Just look at his international politics.
Surely you see that this is not normal?
Why the hell so many of you defend him is completely bizarre.
If only there was an historic example of sheeple blindly following madness!
Your belief that things were better before is bizarre. They have always been fukked up. Trump is just another puppet of the elites. All presidents in recent history have been. Why are you so reluctant to accept that?
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @metal-brainI’m not saying US foreign policy was ever anything but aggressively destructive.
US foreign policy was never normal. Invading countries does not benefit most Americans.
Your belief that things were better before is bizarre. They have always been fukked up. Trump is just another puppet of the elites. All presidents in recent history have been. Why are you so reluctant to accept that?
I am saying that what trump tweets and does is not normal.
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @metal-brainLet me revise this somewhat.
Is this what you are talking about?
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
4h4 hours ago
Isn’t it a shame that someone can write an article or book, totally make up stories and form a picture of a person that is literally the exact opposite of the fact, and get away with it without retribution or cost. Don’t know why Washington pol ...[text shortened]... lies according to the statements Trump posted on Twitter. Do you think all 3 of them are lying?
The odds that Bob Woodward, one of the most respected political journalists in the country for decades, fabricated these accounts is virtually zero. So his sources must have told him that these things were said. Given his meticulous nature. it is almost certain that these sources were actually at the meetings in question and it's quite possible he has multiple sources at the meetings.
Kelly and Mattis surely have a motive to lie; Trunp would surely fire them if they did not disclaim making the statements. It's possible they made the statements but don't specifically recall them, it's possible they made statements similar to those reported but without the most offensive words like "idiot" and that the sources embellished.
In any event, from numerous reports it is virtually certain that many people in his administration believe that Trump is a short tempered nut who needs to be controlled. That is probably because he is.
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @no1marauderHold on. I thought you said Kelly's statement was old so was not lie but in the wrong context so therefore misleading. Now you are saying it is a lie, implying it is recent (Woodward) instead of old. Which is it?
Let me revise this somewhat.
The odds that Bob Woodward, one of the most respected political journalists in the country for decades, fabricated these accounts is virtually zero. So his sources must have told him that these things were said. Given his meticulous nature. it is almost certain that these sources were actually at the meetings in question ...[text shortened]... e that Trump is a short tempered nut who needs to be controlled. That is probably because he is.
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @shavixmirTweets are a bit weird, but what is it that he does that is not normal? What is the most abnormal thing he has done?
I’m not saying US foreign policy was ever anything but aggressively destructive.
I am saying that what trump tweets and does is not normal.
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @metal-brainDid you bother to look at the link?
Hold on. I thought you said Kelly's statement was old so was not lie but in the wrong context so therefore misleading. Now you are saying it is a lie, implying it is recent (Woodward) instead of old. Which is it?
Probably not. The Kelly statement is from April 2018 though it addresses the same claim i.e. that he said Trump was an "idiot".
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @metal-brainHe fired his Secretary of State by tweet.
Tweets are a bit weird, but what is it that he does that is not normal? What is the most abnormal thing he has done?
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @no1marauderSo you are saying the lie is before the Woodward book? If so, why are you putting both in the same context?
Did you bother to look at the link?
Probably not. The Kelly statement is from April 2018 though it addresses the same claim i.e. that he said Trump was an "idiot".
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @metal-brainBecause the Donald presented it in response to the Woodward book in his tweet as you, again, would know if you actually read the links.
So you are saying the lie is before the Woodward book? If so, why are you putting both in the same context?
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @no1marauderOh, the world is coming to an end because Trump didn't do it in person (sarcasm). Don't you think his bombing Syria was worse? Tweets don't kill people. Bombs do.
He fired his Secretary of State by tweet.
06 Sep 18
Originally posted by @metal-brainYou asked for what was "abnormal".
Oh, the world is coming to an end because Trump didn't do it in person (sarcasm). Don't you think his bombing Syria was worse? Tweets don't kill people. Bombs do.
Unfortunately, the US bombing other countries isn't "abnormal".