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@kewpie said
Unfortunately, a lot of the brainpower of intelligent, trained, thoughtful scientists is being consumed by trying to educate people who are determined that they will ignore anything that isn't dissolved in Kool-Aid.
Intelligent, trained, thoughtful scientists don't deny facts their own government acknowledges.

The WHO Task Force on Vaccines for Fertility Regulation. Its formation, objectives and research activities

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1874951/

Why did they want to put it in a vaccine instead of a pill unless they wanted to sterilize people involuntarily?

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@shavixmir said
No. No they didn’t.

You’re arse is sqeaking leaky bubbles of paranoid conspirital garbage again.

How often do you have to be shot down before you actually start researching stuff properly?
Gossypol should be prescribed preferably to men who have completed their families or for those who would accept permanent infertility after a few years of use.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12020773/

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@metal-brain said
Gossypol should be prescribed preferably to men who have completed their families or for those who would accept permanent infertility after a few years of use.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12020773/
No. No it shouldn’t.

Again, you’ve picked up a tad of information and completely chase yourself down a rabbit hole of conspiratory stupidity.

Gossypol was trialed in Asia somewhere in the 70’s as a male contraceptive. But it’s very toxic and left permanent damage.
Later studies, on animals, came to the same conclusion.

It’s one of many substances being researched (although it would be along the lines of an alternative to a vasectomy, rather than a reversible contraceptive) for future use.

Nowhere is it being prescribed to anyone.

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@shavixmir said
No. No it shouldn’t.

Again, you’ve picked up a tad of information and completely chase yourself down a rabbit hole of conspiratory stupidity.

Gossypol was trialed in Asia somewhere in the 70’s as a male contraceptive. But it’s very toxic and left permanent damage.
Later studies, on animals, came to the same conclusion.

It’s one of many substances being researched ...[text shortened]... rather than a reversible contraceptive) for future use.

Nowhere is it being prescribed to anyone.
I am just quoting the government article I posted.
Didn't you read it?

The goal is depopulation. People dying is one way to depopulate. Who cares if it is toxic?

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@metal-brain said
I am just quoting the government article I posted.
Didn't you read it?

The goal is depopulation. People dying is one way to depopulate. Who cares if it is toxic?
Everyone cares if things are toxic. What the hell is wrong with you?

The population is going to shrink all by itself. You don’t need to poison people.

And, besides, poisoning people is immoral.

Seriously. Sometimes I wonder what’s went wrong with you.

Can’t you visit a lab sometime? Go to a university and talk with some researchers or something? Instead of reading utter, utter crap which is warping your sense of reality, step out into reality and have a bloody look around?

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@shavixmir said
Everyone cares if things are toxic. What the hell is wrong with you?

The population is going to shrink all by itself. You don’t need to poison people.

And, besides, poisoning people is immoral.

Seriously. Sometimes I wonder what’s went wrong with you.

Can’t you visit a lab sometime? Go to a university and talk with some researchers or something? Instead of read ...[text shortened]... er crap which is warping your sense of reality, step out into reality and have a bloody look around?
If it is immoral why did the Rockefellers fund an anti fertility vaccine? Why did the WHO pursue them as well? Did you read the US government website I posted? They recommended Gossypol.

"Gossypol should be prescribed preferably to men who have completed their families or for those who would accept permanent infertility after a few years of use."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12020773/

You might make some progress by reading the material first. Ask what is wrong with them.

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> Controversial opinion alert <

Overpopulation is the biggest threat facing our species. Compounded with climate change impacting food supply it becomes the crosshairs of a societal crash.

He in the UK having babies is celebrated as an achievement and it’s funded by the government. The lower “classes” are unrestrained in propagating themselves, leaching off the benefit and housing systems and filling up schools with their revolting offspring. The upper “classes” are more restrained but their progeny are equally revolting, moaning incessantly on social media about how they can’t afford a house but they can afford a new phone, a leased car, a holiday in the Caribbean, etc etc.

As you can tell I hold an unsympathetic view to this “right to have children”.

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Inequalities in power, wealth and access to resources – not mere numbers – are key drivers of environmental degradation.

https://theecologist.org/2020/apr/16/debunking-overpopulation

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@metal-brain said
@divegeester

Inequalities in power, wealth and access to resources – not mere numbers – are key drivers of environmental degradation.

https://theecologist.org/2020/apr/16/debunking-overpopulation
I didn’t link population numbers to “environmental degradation”.

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@divegeester said
I didn’t link population numbers to “environmental degradation”.
Yes you did. You said this:

"Overpopulation is the biggest threat facing our species. Compounded with climate change impacting food supply it becomes the crosshairs of a societal crash. "

You are one of those climate change alarmists. Climate change alarmists are a threat to our food supply. Climate change alarmists want to wage war against fertilizer and cattle to reduce food production.

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