07 Oct 08
Originally posted by whodeyNow you have changed the scenario to fit your needs. I never mentioned a gun nor a rape.
No, what I am saying is that if you see the woman being mugged at gun point and you come up behind him and goose him to divert his attention away from her I think you should get shot. Not only will she get raped anyway, in addition, you will be dead.
Your principles may be fine but your execution of them is piss poor.
07 Oct 08
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Originally posted by CliffLandinScenarios are made to make a point and I did so. You created a scenario in an attempt to deny me the ability to make a point and I simply did not allow you to do so.
Now you have changed the scenario to fit your needs. I never mentioned a gun nor a rape.
07 Oct 08
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Originally posted by MerkHere is Eledars quote "It is evident that the more education, the more likely a person is to vote Republican." But the numbers show that if you get through College you are just as likely to be a Democrat as a Republican and we know what happens after that.
Which means you're wrong. looking at the spread from no education and comparing it to the post graduate spread, it tightens. What you're doing is data mining. You're picking out one stat and drawing conclusions from it.
You could be right and you could be wrong, but if you're right, it's not because you looked at the data correctly.
07 Oct 08
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Originally posted by whodeyNo, the scenario was a mugging that I walked away from to save myself from harm. You put a gun in the muggers hand so that I would be killed if I tried to help her. It is not a question of you allowing me to do anything. I asked you a simple question and you change it so that the question fit your answer rather than your premise answering the question that was asked.
Scenarios are made to make a point and I did so. You created a scenario in an attempt to deny me the ability to make a point and I simply did not allow you to do so.
07 Oct 08
Originally posted by CliffLandinHow likely is it that a person is a Republican if the person does not have a high school diploma? Each level of education up to a college degree makes it more likely that the person is a Republican. In other words, as the level of education increases so does the percentage of Republicans.
Here is Eledars quote "It is evident that [b]the more education, the more likely a person is to vote Republican." But the numbers show that if you get through College you are just as likely to be a Democrat as a Republican and we know what happens after that.[/b]
07 Oct 08
Originally posted by whodeyI heard it as if you are young and conservitive you had never been arrested. If you are older and a libral you have never been a victim.
Does anyone have the stats on age in terms of who is conservative verses liberal?
I once heard someone tell me that if you are young and are not a liberal you have no heart, but if you are not a conservative when you are older you have no brain. LOL.
07 Oct 08
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Originally posted by CliffLandinUhm . . . am I missing something here? According to this poll, shouldn't Democrats be wininng by landslides? They get at least as high a percentage in every category as do Republicans.
VOTE BY EDUCATION TOTAL Democrat Republican
No High School (3% )----------- 64% -------35%
H.S. Graduate (21% ) -----------55%------- 44%
Some College (31% )----------- 51%------- 47%
College Graduate (27% ) -------49%------- 49%
Postgraduate (18% )------------ 58%------- 41%
As postgraduate is still considered education, then your claim that the cts show clearly that they, the more intelligent students, are more likely to vote Democratic.
Also if my memory serves me correctly the HS only or less group should make up about 60% of the US population. Does this data say that low education groups have a higher concentration of abstentions?
Edit: I was digging around the link a bit. Where was this data collected?
07 Oct 08
Originally posted by CliffLandinIf a Republican, you have worked hard to get where you are at, you have more to lose. If a Democrart, you have less, thus have more to gain.
Here is Eledars quote "It is evident that [b]the more education, the more likely a person is to vote Republican." But the numbers show that if you get through College you are just as likely to be a Democrat as a Republican and we know what happens after that.[/b]
If I was on welfare, just scrapping by, I would be all Obama. Yes, for free health care. Yes, for the redistribution of wealth. Yes, for more social programs.
But all I can see is more taxes to support all this. Where will that come from? Yes those that pay those taxes.
I tell you all, I would love to change the eligability of who can vote. A simple, but dramatic change. In order to vote, you must have paid at least $2000 in taxes. Why should someone on welfare, who is a burden on society be able to determine how or who spends our money's if they do not contribute to it. They wouldn't! If you don't pull your own weight as a Citizen of our country, then you lose that right. Chew on that for a while!!
07 Oct 08
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Originally posted by EladarUntil one gets the point of actually learning something, which happens only in graduate school. At that point, the simplistic nonsense that has becomes the stock in trade of social conservatives and neoconservatives, if not all Republicans, becomes transparent and no longer sways.
It is evident that the more education, the more likely a person is to vote Republican.
The point is that we need to distinguish between technical education that is vocationally oriented--most high school and college--and the ability to comprehend and evaluate claims to knowledge and truth--the central characteristic of graduate education. Education maintains the tendency to vote Democratic, but shifts the rationale. Vocational and technical school makes one more likely to perceive that his or her own economic self-interests are represented by Republicans because that's what the MSM states.
TH data shows that a thin majority of uneducated voters vote their economic self-interests, to wit: 52% of those with some college--the 51% that vote Democrat, plus the 1% of college dropouts that have done exceptionally well in business and are well represented by Republicans. We might also note that 64.00001% of early dropouts also vote their economic self-interests.
07 Oct 08
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Originally posted by EladarThese don't:
You are correct, numbers don't lie.
http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
Higher average IQ = Kerry states in 2004
Lower average IQ = Bush states in 2004
Of course, that site is a well-known hoax. The actual IQ data, and level of education still tilted towards Kerry in 2004, but slightly less dramatically. See http://sq.4mg.com/IQpolitics.htm
07 Oct 08
Originally posted by telerionExit polls in 2006... Very reliable data. 😕
Uhm . . . am I missing something here? According to this poll, shouldn't Democrats be wininng by landslides? They get at least as high a percentage in every category as do Republicans.
Also if my memory serves me correctly the HS only or less group should make up about 60% of the US population. Does this data say that low education groups have a hig ...[text shortened]... of abstentions?
Edit: I was digging around the link a bit. Where was this data collected?
07 Oct 08
Originally posted by jlillyI don't know why you and Democrats put so much emphasis on degrees when fully a third of college graduates are now working at jobs where they don't even need one. So how long have you been a barista at Starbucks?
Any studies to show republican voters are typically uneducated?
I read something that researched the key battle ground states during this election. Typical republican voting bloc. Over half didn't even have a college education.
Lower education = voting republican?
07 Oct 08
Does having a "college education" make one a more valid, better human being? In what way?
Education makes you educated. Being a good, moral being makes one a good person.
Being a moral being has NOTHING to do with being educated.
If you doubt this, ask yourself why Hitlers regime had the most college educated leaders of any regime of his day.
Being educated seems to have made them all very well educated fools and killers.