Arrest the war criminals!

@Rajk999 said
There Is, but if you prefer the wording "babies of muslim men", would be better. In Islam babies are considered muslim until they are taught another doctrine. The procedure is that at birth the father wispers some muslim pray and the baby is considered to be following Islam. No baptism or other ritual is required.

If what you say is true then “babies before birth” still can’t be Muslims.

I wonder however if you are confusing the prayer in question with the idea that Islam is instinctive in all people. By that logic even Jewish and the babies of white Christians are naturally Muslim until their parents “corrupt” them. The father does not make the baby Muslim via incantations in Islam.

https://www.abuaminaelias.com/dailyhadithonline/2012/10/06/every-child-born-fitrah-nature/

Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “No child is born but that he is upon natural instinct. His parents make him a Jew, or a Christian, or Magian. As an animal delivers a child with limbs intact, do you detect any flaws?”

I personally reject this idea and believe Islam is also taught by parents and others just like other religions.

@AThousandYoung said
If what you say is true then “babies before birth” still can’t be Muslims.

I wonder however if you are confusing the prayer in question with the idea that Islam is instinctive in all people. By that logic even Jewish and the babies of white Christians are naturally Muslim until their parents “corrupt” them. The father does not make the baby Muslim via incantation ...[text shortened]... y reject this idea and believe Islam is also taught by parents and others just like other religions.

Where did you get the idea I said Islam is instinctive. All religion is taught. It is taught and conditioned and brainwashed into the child from birth.

I dont get your point really.

@Rajk999 said
Where did you get the idea I said Islam is instinctive. All religion is taught. It is taught and conditioned and brainwashed into the child from birth.

I dont get your point really.

Muslims believe Islam is instinctive which is why they believe babies are Muslim The father whispering prayers is irrelevant.

You wrote babies can be Muslim because the father whispers prayers over them which is false.

@AThousandYoung said
Muslims believe Islam is instinctive which is why they believe babies are Muslim The father whispering prayers is irrelevant.

You wrote babies can be Muslim because the father whispers prayers over them which is false.

The muslim babies are muslim because the PARENTS and the ISLAMIC ENVIRONMENT in which they live, believes that they are. That is all that is required.

I agree that they are stupid [yet again], to believe that some pray makes them muslim.

@spruce112358 said
So the world gangs up against the Jews - but then what happens?!? You are making this into such a cliffhanger!

I don't want to get the wrong story from some website, since I wouldn't be able to tell the accepted account from something inaccurate.

I do not discuss bible stuff with atheists. I may tell them what I think, but to enter into a discussion of what the bible says is not my thing at all.

I told you what I think. For more information there is Google.

@Rajk999 said
The muslim babies are muslim because the PARENTS and the ISLAMIC ENVIRONMENT in which they live, believes that they are. That is all that is required.

I agree that they are stupid [yet again], to believe that some pray makes them muslim.

They don't believe that some prayer makes them Muslim. Strawman.

@AThousandYoung said
They don't believe that some prayer makes them Muslim. Strawman.

He’s probably referring to the Shahada.

With as much comprehension as a wombat staring at the assorted works of Einstein.