All is not well in Putin's Russia
With his invasion of Ukraine floundering and his economy teetering, and angry and dejected Putin turned his baleful glare on Russians who are against the invasion or who sympathize with the West.
"The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and will simply spit them out like an insect in their mouth onto the pavement," he said, shoulders hunched and staring down the barrel of the camera.
Almost 15,000 protesters have been arrested in Russia since the war began. Unknown thousands more have fled the country, driven away by deepening state repression of protest, independent journalism and social media, as well as a spiraling economy hit by international sanctions and mass boycotts.
There is now an “acceptance that this is going to usher in a period of extreme isolation of Russia, as well as impoverishment and a return, frankly, to many of the features of the Soviet Union,” he said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/scum-and-traitors-under-pressure-over-ukraine-putin-turns-his-ire-on-russians/ar-AAVcIF6?ocid=msedgntp
@mchill saidThis might feel good in the short term because we can't stand Putin and have fallen in love with the heroic Ukranians (except No1, I guess).
All is not well in Putin's Russia
With his invasion of Ukraine floundering and his economy teetering, and angry and dejected Putin turned his baleful glare on Russians who are against the invasion or who sympathize with the West.
"The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and will simply spit them out like an insect in the ...[text shortened]... um-and-traitors-under-pressure-over-ukraine-putin-turns-his-ire-on-russians/ar-AAVcIF6?ocid=msedgntp
But Putin getting more desperate is also bad news. Unless he's toppled (unlikely), as be gets backed further and further into the corner, his incentive to avoid using chemical, biological and even nuclear weapons diminishes.
When Putin is on the ropes is the best time to offer him a deal that will allow him to back down but save face.
@sh76 saidNormally I would I agree, but Putin is a man (like his former Soviet counterparts) who only understands one thing - Domination. If Putin thinks he can push a country around, you can bet he'll do it. If a more powerful country pushes back, he'll back down. Putin underestimated the fighting spirit of the Ukrainian people, as well as the response of the NATO bloc and President Biden who recently authorized a large military aid package to Ukraine which included some especially nasty switchblade drones (please see link) I watched the Cuban missile crisis unfold in 1962 when the world stood on the edge of nuclear war. The Soviets backed down, and I think Putin will too.
This might feel good in the short term because we can't stand Putin and have fallen in love with the heroic Ukranians (except No1, I guess).
But Putin getting more desperate is also bad news. Unless he's toppled (unlikely), as be gets backed further and further into the corner, his incentive to avoid using chemical, biological and even nuclear weapons diminishes.
When Puti ...[text shortened]... is on the ropes is the best time to offer him a deal that will allow him to back down but save face.
https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/03/17/switchblade-drones-what-are-these-kamikaze-weapons-and-how-can-they-help-ukraine
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Or we are all just whistling Dixie and Putin pushes forward in spite of massive battlefield losses, where his soldiers are demoralized and have food rations some 20 years past their use date, abandoning tanks and other military hardware and they haven't even gotten into a real tank to tank battle yet or Putin's jets V our Stinger missiles.
Using our weapons like that sounds like maybe waste of money on our part but a hidden bonus is there, when the shooting stops and the analysts start figuring, the world will know how effective those stingers and others are effective in actual battlefield conditions.
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@mchill saidarresting protestors…I know another govt that does that!
All is not well in Putin's Russia
With his invasion of Ukraine floundering and his economy teetering, and angry and dejected Putin turned his baleful glare on Russians who are against the invasion or who sympathize with the West.
"The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and will simply spit them out like an insect in the ...[text shortened]... um-and-traitors-under-pressure-over-ukraine-putin-turns-his-ire-on-russians/ar-AAVcIF6?ocid=msedgntp
@sonhouse saidI've heard of the Stingers, Javelins, C-RAM systems, Bayraktar etc, but the MANPAD is a new term lately.
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Or we are all just whistling Dixie and Putin pushes forward in spite of massive battlefield losses, where his soldiers are demoralized and have food rations some 20 years past their use date, abandoning tanks and other military hardware and they haven't even gotten into a real tank to tank battle yet or Putin's jets V our Stinger missiles.
Using our weapons like t ...[text shortened]... ld will know how effective those stingers and others are effective in actual battlefield conditions.
Has it been around for a while?
How effective is it, and how does it work?
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Ah, you are talking clearly, about North Korea.
We arrest protesters who destroy property like those assswipes attacking the capitol, FEDS at least don't arrest peaceful protesters because there is this constitution, we tout that specifically says Feds cannot stop protest that are peaceful.
But as usual, you want to dis the US every chance you get, which just goes to show more evidence of you being a TRAITOR.
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@sonhouse saiddo you put on lip stick when you wear your dress?
@Mott-The-Hoople
Ah, you are talking clearly, about North Korea.
We arrest protesters who destroy property like those assswipes attacking the capitol, FEDS at least don't arrest peaceful protesters because there is this constitution, we tout that specifically says Feds cannot stop protest that are peaceful.
But as usual, you want to dis the US every chance you get, which just goes to show more evidence of you being a TRAITOR.
@sh76 saidThat's exactly what I thought as I read the OP. The war isn't just in Ukraine, it's also at home, against the oligarch's with frozen bank accounts and people being burdened by the sanctions, in addition to Russians morally against the war.
This might feel good in the short term because we can't stand Putin and have fallen in love with the heroic Ukranians (except No1, I guess).
But Putin getting more desperate is also bad news. Unless he's toppled (unlikely), as be gets backed further and further into the corner, his incentive to avoid using chemical, biological and even nuclear weapons diminishes.
When Puti ...[text shortened]... is on the ropes is the best time to offer him a deal that will allow him to back down but save face.
Putin has excelled in projecting strength; he won't compromise that image for anything. If he feels he's losing his iron grip, he'll react accordingly. Putin has a trail of dead and poisoned dissidents to prove it.
Putin may be considering a quick end to this war....
@mott-the-hoople saidNow, now. Let's not go picking on the Canidjians 😛
arresting protestors…I know another govt that does that!
Now, I know that we get news that is biased to one side, no doubt. But if
there is truth to what I am reading, Russia will likely lose this war.
-- troops that never knew they were going to war; generals who were never
told because Putin did not want the americans to find out.
-- canned food that is 7 years beyond "eat by" date.
-- soldiers puncturing gas tanks to get out of advancing
-- soldiers shooting themselves to get out of fighting.
-- communications compromised because the encrypted comms system failed
and the Russians have had to resort to normal communications.
-- And of course, the Ukrainians are just that much better fighting and getting
unexpected performance from the Turkish drones.
@mchill saidI looked at this battle map and wonder what a "looming defeat" looks like: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/17/un-says-more-than-700-civilians-killed-ukraine-liveblog
All is not well in Putin's Russia
With his invasion of Ukraine floundering and his economy teetering, and angry and dejected Putin turned his baleful glare on Russians who are against the invasion or who sympathize with the West.
"The Russian people will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and will simply spit them out like an insect in the ...[text shortened]... um-and-traitors-under-pressure-over-ukraine-putin-turns-his-ire-on-russians/ar-AAVcIF6?ocid=msedgntp
I suppose if some of our posters here had been around in September 1939 they'd be musing about Hitler's looming defeat in Poland; after all, Warsaw held out for four weeks.
@sh76 saidWell, I have not fallen in love with heroic Ukrainians… and am very unlikely to either.
This might feel good in the short term because we can't stand Putin and have fallen in love with the heroic Ukranians (except No1, I guess).
But Putin getting more desperate is also bad news. Unless he's toppled (unlikely), as be gets backed further and further into the corner, his incentive to avoid using chemical, biological and even nuclear weapons diminishes.
When Puti ...[text shortened]... is on the ropes is the best time to offer him a deal that will allow him to back down but save face.
And I have always had a major hate-itch towards Putin. From the very start. But unless we’re talking James Bond, I have a natural tendency to get irritated by any former secret agent type. Whether it’s KGB, CIA or bloody MI6.
As for this little fukk-fest, I’ve said from the begin it was madness. I cannot comprehend what Russia hope’s to achieve here.
As for the reporting. The West’s coverage seems to be one sided and bordering on wishful thinking. Basically the usual attempt to demoralise the opposition. And in this I also wonder why. I mean, it’s hardly likely the troops on the ground are watching the BB bloody C.
As for the logistics of the attack: considering the size of the Ukrainian army and that they’re in defensive positions, I can’t understand why our Western generals think Russia was hoping for a walk-over.
And if Russia actually did think they could blitz-krieg Ukraine.. what the hell’s wrong with their bloody generals?
I mean, look at the Iraq war. That was fought in a desert, against an opponent who didn’t have the sort of army or equipment Ukraine has. With an invasion force of 300.000 backed with the most modern equipment on the planet.
It took 3 weeks.
And then it lasted another decade fighting rebels.
@sonhouse saidYou don't know what you are talking about as usual.
@Mott-The-Hoople
Ah, you are talking clearly, about North Korea.
We arrest protesters who destroy property like those assswipes attacking the capitol, FEDS at least don't arrest peaceful protesters because there is this constitution, we tout that specifically says Feds cannot stop protest that are peaceful.
But as usual, you want to dis the US every chance you get, which just goes to show more evidence of you being a TRAITOR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
We shoot anti-war protesters despite the constitution.