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You do realize that I don't have to compete with anyone.

Nor do you get to say what I meant. Even among white people, the US is far more diverse than the Nordic countries, which are monochrome both culturally and racially.

It is Duchess64 who routinely displays her racism by referring to me and others as racist white Americans. Her obvious prejudice against white Americans and males makes her both sexist and racist.

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Not to you, you pompous moron!

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Originally posted by Quarl
Why would anyone seeking to be president of the U.S.A. say he doesn't want the U.S. to be more like the U.S.?

The idea seems absolutely daft to me:
Would a prospective leader of Great Britain say he wants to be more like Italy?
Would a prospective leader of France say he desires France to be more like Spain?

I submit that if anyone, vying for leaders ...[text shortened]... to these proposals or what the poster ascribed to Sanders, they would be dismissed out of hand.
"Why would anyone seeking to be president of the U.S.A. say he doesn't want the U.S. to be more like the U.S.?"
to be like the US means you have to tax poor people but forgive the rich?
does it mean you only go to college if you have money instead if you're capable?
does it mean you must declare bankruptcy or die if you don't have the money to pay for your medical care?

yes, it is daft to think america should be less like that and more like civilized countries.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
A stronger economy? Do you have a source of information to demonstrate that is the case?

There is also the claim that democratic socialism would be less efficient than capitalism in the USA. You make it seem like it is a "slam dunk" and the USA would be obviously better off. Perhaps you are also biased in favor of leftist political policies. I doubt it is as simple as you think.
"There is also the claim that democratic socialism would be less efficient than capitalism in the USA. "
claim made by whom? efficient how?


you already have socialism, it's just pointed at the rich.

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
"There is also the claim that democratic socialism would be less efficient than capitalism in the USA. "
claim made by whom? efficient how?


you already have socialism, it's just pointed at the rich.
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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
It depends, of course, on how you define the "strength" of an economy. A simplistic measure is GDP per capita, for which Denmark and the US have about the same (Norway has a far higher GDP per capita). Start looking at measures which include broader measures of the quality of life (which is, in essence, what the strength of an economy amounts to) and De ...[text shortened]... ed people. Although there are, of course, those that instead claim that the ball does not exist.
Sweden and Denmark have negative interest rates. This is not an indication of economic strength. Your homeland has negative interest rates too, another socialist like liberal state. Norway does not, but they have the best economy of the Scandinavians I have heard.

I am a reluctant supporter of Sanders because if any country can afford the inefficiency it is the USA, but I reject his AGW alarmist mythology and desire for a carbon tax.

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Originally posted by Zahlanzi
"There is also the claim that democratic socialism would be less efficient than capitalism in the USA. "
claim made by whom? efficient how?


you already have socialism, it's just pointed at the rich.
Yeah, I know.
:'(

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
Sweden and Denmark have negative interest rates. This is not an indication of economic strength. Your homeland has negative interest rates too, another socialist like liberal state. Norway does not, but they have the best economy of the Scandinavians I have heard.

I am a reluctant supporter of Sanders because if any country can afford the inefficiency it is the USA, but I reject his AGW alarmist mythology and desire for a carbon tax.
Negative interest rates are an indication of negative interest rates.

My "homeland" cannot set the central bank interest rate.

Reducing inequality is not inefficient but, under fairly mild conditions, creates wealth.

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The first post-New Hampshire poll in Nevada shows the Bern and Hillary dead even at 45%. http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/nv-toplines.pdf

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Originally posted by no1marauder
The first post-New Hampshire poll in Nevada shows the Bern and Hillary dead even at 45%. http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/nv-toplines.pdf
And that is with 59% of the voters being women!

The questions near the end seem to be biased against Hillary.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
And that is with 59% of the voters being women!

The questions near the end seem to be biased against Hillary.
There's two questions giving a rather simplistic version of Bernie's positions and two regarding Hillary. The "Wall Street bailout" question seems pretty biased and the "FBI could indict" question is incorrect (the FBI doesn't indict). On the other hand, "$15 trillion dollars more for a government run health care program" without specifying that that amount is over 10 years and that it would replace all other direct health care costs is pretty misleading, too.

RCP puts an (R) next to TargetPoint meaning it is a polling group that generally does work for Republicans. That doesn't discount the poll if the methodology is good, but does explain the specific questions discussed above..

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