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AThousandYoung
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Well? English Longbow, Italian Crossbow, or Mongol bow? Two Wikipedia articles claim the Mongol bow was better than the English longbow:

The Mongol bow was the best of the age, able to penetrate plate armour at close range, and accurate up to 300 yards, almost 50-100 yards more than the legendary English longbowmen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_military_tactics_and_organization

The closest bow in medieval time was the English longbow, with the same draw weight and range, but about twice the size. Another medieval bow, the crossbow, took much longer to fire. The small size of the Mongolian bow not only allowed them to carry it on horseback, but to shoot in any direction while their horse galloped.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_advances_of_Genghis_Khan

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That first article is horribly written.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
That first article is horribly written.
i liked it, it gets an A for effort.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Well? English Longbow, Italian Crossbow, or Mongol bow? Two Wikipedia articles claim the Mongol bow was better than the English longbow:

[b]The Mongol bow was the best of the age, able to penetrate plate armour at close range, and accurate up to 300 yards, almost 50-100 yards more than the legendary English longbowmen.


http://en.wikipedia ...[text shortened]... eir horse galloped.[/b]

[i]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_advances_of_Genghis_Khan
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you might like Dan Tyler Moore's novel "The Terrible Game", it's out of print, i think, but maybe you can find it used (in paperback).

it relates to mongols, and discusses those bows. (i won't spoil the plot, tho.)

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the Mongol bow. (double-curved, laminated horn?)

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
the Mongol bow. (double-curved, laminated horn?)
There are five changes in curvature (going from concave to convex or the opposite) on a Mongol bow from end to end. Two "horns" and the center all curve away from the wielder, while the two regions between these curve towards him.

Do you think a six foot composite bow - a "Mongol Longbow" - could have been made which is even stronger than either? Would it have been practical?

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
That first article is horribly written.
It's the Wikipedia after all. Go ahead and fix it up if you like.

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what makes a mongol bow more powerful than a longbow?

just the laminate or shorter length (therefore faster snapback), also?

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the mongols might have liked shorter bows since they were astride.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Do you think a six foot composite bow - a "Mongol Longbow" - could have been made which is even stronger than either? Would it have been practical?
The Japanese longbow could be used on horseback and was by all accounts pretty awesome. Yumi-ya!

http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_denig_0301.htm

The great advantages of the English longbow, apart from the obvious, were that it could be fired in volleys, was cheap to produce, didn't require expensive training, and was obviously suitable for the conditions of Western Europe (mud). The Black Prince's boyos would have come a cropper against Genghis' mob.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
It's the Wikipedia after all. Go ahead and fix it up if you like.
It seems that the Wikipedia is exclusively referred to on this site. I
find the Encylopedia Britannica preferable.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
The Japanese longbow could be used on horseback and was by all accounts pretty awesome. Yumi-ya!

http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_denig_0301.htm

The great advantages of the English longbow, apart from the obvious, were that it could be fired in volleys, was cheap to produce, didn't require expensive training, and was obviously suitable for the conditi ...[text shortened]... estern Europe (mud). The Black Prince's boyos would have come a cropper against Genghis' mob.
How about Zulu spears?

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Originally posted by Nargaguna
How about Zulu spears?
Zulu warriors were remarkably like Roman legionaries, using short stabbing spears and large shields, both innovations attributed to Shaka. Hard to see the assegai as a contendor for Best Mediaeval Bow, though.

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I thought this thread was about methods of prostration.

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Originally posted by royalchicken
I thought this thread was about methods of prostration.
The Ottomans had the edge in that department, I think.

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