Biden says he'll defend Taiwan militarily

@mghrn55 said
I guess Biden overstepped the WH policy.

At least he didn't stand at the speech podium at the UN and threaten to wipe another country off the face of the earth.

We are all so different...that was one of Trump's best moments, in my book.

@kevcvs57 said
An immoral act is an immoral act joe, unless you are declaring yourself to be a utilitarian, but I doubt you are.

A good issue. So , it was immoral to advance on the West and do war, which has been going on for 10,000 years, to better the future world? For Columbus to strike out to find new lands to develop nations? European colonialism should never have happened? Are you gonna tell us which was moral, and which was immoral. Do you know Britain conquered more countries than any of them? Is the country of Britain immoral? You and Suzianne just throw stuff around like errant darts at a dartboard.

@jimm619 said
Wow, what a clever, quick witted retort.

Yep. Made yours look foolish.

Poster didn't say one single racist word, not one, but got jumped for being racist.

There has never been a U.S. president that at some time or another I didn't stand around a coffee pot with people and disagree with something they had done. Not one. But Obama set a new precedent. Say ANYTHING that doesn't go lock step with the Dems, and they'll brand you a racist in a half second.

You, sir, are an ID10t.

@liljo said
Yep. Made yours look foolish.

Poster didn't say one single racist word, not one, but got jumped for being racist.

There has never been a U.S. president that at some time or another I didn't stand around a coffee pot with people and disagree with something they had done. Not one. But Obama set a new precedent. Say ANYTHING that doesn't go lock step with the Dems, and they'll brand you a racist in a half second.

You, sir, are an ID10t.

If the word "racist" was added to the banned word list on the forum I think some of the folks here couldn't complete a single post. No1 isn't usually so lazy, but I think he's butt hurt over the prospect of Roe getting overturned, so he's is acting out like a big baby.

@vivify said
I was saying that America opposing China's forces in Taiwan is akin to some foreign country defending Hawaii from the U.S.

Not correct.

It would be like some foreign country - an ally of the USA - defending the President and Congress of the USA, who had evacuated to Hawaii, from rebels who had taken the 49 States FROM the USA.

@athousandyoung said
Not correct.

It would be like some foreign country - an ally of the USA - defending the President and Congress of the USA, who had evacuated to Hawaii, from rebels who had taken the 49 States FROM the USA.

Kind of like how in WW2 the Allies defended the Republic of France (du Galle, etc) even though continental France was ruled by the Vichy.

@vivify said
That, unfortunately, is irrelevant. "Morally" speaking, most U.S. land belongs to Native Americans.

Hey, we should just move! And THEN, to make it right, the Sioux should return their southern lands to the Kiowa. And the Apaches, man, THEY got some 'splainin' to do!
And the list goes on and on...

@averagejoe1 said
So,,,,,,,,what is he saying or , what did he say.... Give us repubs something to work with.....

Why? You'll just make something up anyways, like usual.

@liljo said
Hey, we should just move! And THEN, to make it right, the Sioux should return their southern lands to the Kiowa. And the Apaches, man, THEY got some 'splainin' to do!
And the list goes on and on...

So Cal is Tongva territory. Peaceful canoe fishermen and acorn farmers. No conflicts or complications like that here.

@averagejoe1 said
@AverageJoe1. Early vote in Georgia is already up 20% over last year. This kills everyone knocking voter suppression in Georgia. The Dem Hoax Exposed! The Bill actually made it 'easier to vote, harder to cheat'. The dem candidate for governor, (the Abrams person), said today that Ga is "the worst state to live in". I may be proved wrong, having predicted she will win. ...[text shortened]... to get it out there. Imagine. Running for governor and saying that. You fellers do put on a show.

But it's all about the culture, huh?

@vivify said
No one is saying Taiwan doesn't have the right to fight for sovereignty; it was a nation before China came along.

You seem unaware that jumping into war, especially between superpowers, only brings more death and destruction. Look at Yemen and what a tragic human rights disaster that became because of external forces joining the fight.

A fight between superpowers wil ...[text shortened]... time the Kurds serve their purpose, like in 2019, the U.S. leaves them to die. America is no hero.

So the answer is appeasement?

@averagejoe1 said
We are all so different...that was one of Trump's best moments, in my book.

Yup !! We're different all right.

@suzianne said
So the answer is appeasement?

Are the only options either appeasement or war?

@suzianne said
But it's all about the culture, huh?

Well yeah. What denominator would you use? As you ponder, consider the people that are hazel, umber, tan, dusky, sable, ebony,onyx, ……. How you gonna know? Gets tiresome, Suzianne. Your discussions need footing. Consider culture, for better closure. What culture is the Uvalde, TX murderer, for instance? He could be white, or sable or an umber. But is his a culture with which we are familiar?? That is the way to look at it.

@athousandyoung said
Not correct.

It would be like some foreign country - an ally of the USA - defending the President and Congress of the USA, who had evacuated to Hawaii, from rebels who had taken the 49 States FROM the USA.

It's kind of like how Russia is protecting the elected President of Ukraine and a few provinces from a mob of nationalistic Ukrainians depending on whose story you believe.