@no1marauder saidHate to bother (all of you) with the facts, but you certainly know, but keep bitching, that Biden exercised a, ahem....' certain power' on his day of inauguration, which power, today , can be used , can be exercised, to totally draw a schematic of 'Life at the Border', or 'Rules at the Border' with just a flick of his bony wrist. Just a flick. Use just 4 seconds,,,,,,it will be done. The border is fixed, by Biden, with the power to do so, by signing a piece of paper.
Hate to bother you with facts BUT:
"Since May 12, 2023 to January 31, 2024, DHS has removed or returned over 520,000 individuals, the vast majority of whom crossed the southwest border, including more than 87,000 individual family members. [b]The majority of all individuals encountered at the southwest border over the past three years have been removed, returned, or ex ...[text shortened]... dministrative judges to more quickly process asylum claims the number would surely have been higher.
What in the HELL are all of you talking about?
@AverageJoe1 saidThe President is not a dictator, though you seem to want to make him one.
Hate to bother (all of you) with the facts, but you certainly know, but keep bitching, that Biden exercised a, ahem....' certain power' on his day of inauguration, which power, today , can be used , can be exercised, to totally draw a schematic of 'Life at the Border', or 'Rules at the Border' with just a flick of his bony wrist. Just a flick. Use just 4 seconds,,,,,,it ...[text shortened]... h the power to do so, by signing a piece of paper.
What in the HELL are all of you talking about?
Even this executive order, which contradicts existing law which provides that one can apply for asylum when they are present in the country regardless of how they got here, is likely to have a rough go in the courts.
EDIT: INA § 208 (8 USC § 1158)- Asylum
(a) Authority to apply for asylum
(1) In general
Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.
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@no1marauder saidOh. So (maybe using his 90 signatures on inauguration day as an example, all dictatorially recognized as legal and taking affect....dictatorially, as you say).....
The President is not a dictator, though you seem to want to make him one.
Even this executive order, which contradicts existing law which provides that one can apply for asylum when they are present in the country regardless of how they got here, is likely to have a rough go in the courts.
EDIT: INA § 208 (8 USC § 1158)- Asylum
(a) Authority to apply for asylum
...[text shortened]... pply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.
,..... I guess you have enlightened us all ...... he cannot reverse what was in place when he got put in the Oval. Whew. I will cancel my afternoon plans and try to thresh that one out. Who knew!?!? My granny told me you are right, and that he cannot do anything by executive order. Maybe I can meet with you and granny at Starbucks. I can just picture you getting angy and storming away.
You fellers have a bunch of wires crossed in your brains.
@AverageJoe1 saidI guess your post would make some sort of demented sense IF I had claimed the President couldn't legally make ANY Executive Orders.
Oh. So (maybe using his 90 signatures on inauguration day as an example, all dictatorially recognized as legal and taking affect....dictatorially, as you say).....
,..... I guess you have enlightened us all ...... he cannot reverse what was in place when he got put in the Oval. Whew. I will cancel my afternoon plans and try to thresh that one out. Who knew!?!? My ...[text shortened]... you getting angy and storming away.
You fellers have a bunch of wires crossed in your brains.
Of course, I did not.
EDIT: " Finally, the courts have the power to stay enforcement or ultimately overturn an Executive Order that is found to be beyond the President’s constitutional authority." https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_education/resources/teacher_portal/educational_resources/executive_orders/
Let me get this straight. First, see what this says about Cross dressing adults in grade school:
""Why should we allow cross-dressing in school?
Cross-dressing can challenge traditional gender norms present in school dress codes, promoting inclusivity and acceptance of diverse identities. Moreover, cross-dressing can contribute to breaking down stereotypes and promoting equality, aligning with the principles of the First and Fourteenth Amendments.Mar 28, 2024"""
AvJoe Note: Above Marauder says a court can overturn a Biden order. Duh.
I really want cross dressing in my child's school, I AM ON the Board. I try, my heart is in it, I believe in it, I think it may be good for everyone in the city. Hey....I could be wrong, but I read that article. Note that parents are split 50% on having it. i want it, doggone it. So, I persevere.
My point is, the School Board may rule against it, like a court might rule against a Biden executive order. But Marauder, if Biden believes in an order, ANY order, to fix the border problem, would he not go for it? Would he not TRY!? Or, like you suggest, just be weak and figure the courts (the school Board) would turn him down, overrule his edict???????
You will not answer this, or some of your lieutenants will write back abut cross dressing, because they do not understand issues. This is not about cross dressing. It is about doing what you think is right! If Biden were a man, like Trump is a man, he would tell the courts that he is going to do what he thinks is right.
It is so easy to type about a loser, but I think I have made my point. You will not get it either. Drop a cite on us!!!!
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@AverageJoe1 saidBiden just did "what he thinks is right" by issuing the Executive Order that is the subject of the OP, so WTF are you talking about?
Let me get this straight. First, see what this says about Cross dressing adults in grade school:
""Why should we allow cross-dressing in school?
Cross-dressing can challenge traditional gender norms present in school dress codes, promoting inclusivity and acceptance of diverse identities. Moreover, cross-dressing can contribute to breaking down stereotypes and promot ...[text shortened]... about a loser, but I think I have made my point. You will not get it either. Drop a cite on us!!!!
Personally, I don't think Presidents should issue EOs that they think are beyond their rightful powers and I don't think its some sign of "manliness" to do so - it's simply showing contempt for our Constitutional system. That is something a fraudster like Trump does every single day i.e. show contempt for our Constitutional system.
Every time you say "You will not answer this", I answer it and then you pretend I didn't. It's a boring, idiotic game you play.
@no1marauder saidGranted I am not up on the news as much as you are, so don't know the details of his so-called order, but it is apparently weak, because they still pour in. Trump, a man, would stop that. Biden's so-called order does nothing , the numbers do not decrease worth a crap. Again, just like you socialists will win in the end, you will win with the incessant onslaught of illegal invaders. But that is not the issue, the issue is a faerie in the Oval. And yes, we need a real man running 330M people, or a woman who thinks exactly like a man. That goes right over a lib's head. Libs are made up of many identities, no sense going there. If you were asked which were most basic, solid people, would you say the libs or the cons? Right.
Biden just did "what he thinks is right" by issuing the Executive Order that is the subject of the OP, so WTF are you talking about?
Personally, I don't think Presidents should issue EOs that they think are beyond their rightful powers and I don't think its some sign of "manliness" to do so - it's simply showing contempt for our Constitutional system. That is something ...[text shortened]... l not answer this", I answer it and then you pretend I didn't. It's a boring, idiotic game you play.
I cannot WAIT to get that moronic imbecile (you know it, but fear saying it...why??) out of the WH.
Oh, Edit: Did we mention a WALL? Trump will build one and you will see what I am talking about. Why does Biden not build a wall????????????????
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@AverageJoe1 saidHypothetical Question Joe,
Biden is simply not trying. At anything. He is a shell who's wife makes him stay on. Remember Obama said the thing he will miss the most would be AirForce1?
So will Jill.
So, tell us who is running this country?
When the good Lord was giving out brains did you think he said Trains and pass on them? 🙂
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@no1marauder saidTrump was smart enough to get around this with the remain in mexico policy, you know, the policy biden used an executive order to get rid of
The President is not a dictator, though you seem to want to make him one.
Even this executive order, which contradicts existing law which provides that one can apply for asylum when they are present in the country regardless of how they got here, is likely to have a rough go in the courts.
EDIT: INA § 208 (8 USC § 1158)- Asylum
(a) Authority to apply for asylum
...[text shortened]... pply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.
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@Very-Rusty saidHey Rusty....did you see above where Marauder suggested Biden 'may as well' (my words) not do things at the border which courts would overturn? Is that a lib trait, to not do things that might not work? Give up before you start? Not follow your beliefs and forge ahead for the good of the country?
Hypothetical Question Joe,
When the good Lord was giving out brains did you think he said Trains and pass on them? 🙂
-VR
Your party needs more men. I see Mchill, for instance, as representative on the Forum.
So what do you think about Marauder throwing that out....."A court may overturn a presidential decision about something"? Should not a president go with this gut.? Biden seems scared, or at least Marauder makes him seem scared. IMagine Trump scared.....note the world started no wars with him in office
So, should Biden start leading? SO many questions. But god forbid he attempt something that a court may overturn. Jesus
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I have been off this thing for about 3 weeks, you could never guess the bliss I was in. Anyway, I note that with few exceptions like Mott, these hyenas have all been preaching to the same choir ad nauseum. Dragging up old stuff, like , say, Trump is a felon, should be in jail.....and that didn't even include Sonhouse.
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidThe "remain in Mexico" policy was a drop in the bucket:
Trump was smart enough to get around this with the remain in mexico policy, you know, the policy biden used an executive order to get rid of
"An estimated 68,000 migrants were returned to Mexico under the policy, according to DHS."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/01/politics/immigration-remain-in-mexico/index.html
The issue is moot since Mexico has made clear it will no longer cooperate with any such program. Trump's absurd promise to deport 10 million migrants suffers from the same insoluble problem; other countries are not going to be willing to accept such large numbers of returnees (many who will have lived in the US for years) just to mollify US white, Christian Nationalism beliefs.
In the four years under Trump, there were about 2 million apprehensions along the border more than in Obama's second term despite the sharp drop in the second half of 2020 due to COVID. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/
@AverageJoe1 said@Joe,
Hey Rusty....did you see above where Marauder suggested Biden 'may as well' (my words) not do things at the border which courts would overturn? Is that a lib trait, to not do things that might not work? Give up before you start? Not follow your beliefs and forge ahead for the good of the country?
Your party needs more men. I see Mchill, for instance, as representa ...[text shortened]... leading? SO many questions. But god forbid he attempt something that a court may overturn. Jesus
I do believe you did miss out on the brains and trains I was previously talking about. Again I am Canadian NOT American so I don't get a Vote.
I am not about to argue the point with a Lawyer (Marauder) who knows the U.S. laws much better than I do. Especially for New York.
Do you think it is a good idea for TRUMP to be calling the judge that is going to be sentencing him names and saying he is crooked? Now this is before the Judge has even given him his sentence on the 34 found guilty charges. Do you think he is helping or hurting his case?
I am a Canadian but I certainly don't want The office of the POTUS back into a lunatics hands, in my very humble opinion. What happens in the U.S. and laws made there can effect trade between the U.S. and Canada and have a large effect on people in the Trades in both Countries.
Ask yourself this question when Voting does TRUMP care about me or himself first? If you kid yourself into thinking he thinks about you and your welfare first, then Vote for him and see what happens after he is in. You may find yourself in a position where you may have spent more time considering your VOTE!
-VR
@Very-Rusty saidOf course, he does talk too much and should not feed the fire with that pitiful judge, and for the record, no matter what he keeps saying, overstating his disdain for the judge, this whole thing will all be reversed, un my opinion, How can it NOT be? Won't bore you my reasoning, it is the same as that of FOX pundits. The errors are endless.
@Joe,
I do believe you did miss out on the brains and trains I was previously talking about. Again I am Canadian NOT American so I don't get a Vote.
I am not about to argue the point with a Lawyer (Marauder) who knows the U.S. laws much better than I do. Especially for New York.
Do you think it is a good idea for TRUMP to be calling the judge that is goi ...[text shortened]... You may find yourself in a position where you may have spent more time considering your VOTE!
-VR
As to that judge, he best watch his step. Anything short of a sentence of any nature will result in a swarm of Trump support, he will be a shoo-in.
No sense in a follow up by me to you regarding his being a lunatic. Note that more than 50% of the citizens here are wild about the guy, including me. Have you given thought to having a president with cognitive problems....running this country? I am sure that he will NOT be the candidate. My 2 cents.
You comment about trade between the countries. Do you know that yesterday he said give money to Iraq......instead of to Ukraine? He can hardly speak at a roundtable with Canada and talk about anything, so how worse can it be? Trump can sit, without his pitiful notes written by just anyone, and talk trade...Big Time.
Can Biden? Which is most well-versed in business? Right.....
I think Trump cares about America. And you guys suggest he will run wild as president, you are wasting your time. You sound like Sonhouse. The Sky Is Falling.
OK. A question for you. If we discovered Russian preparing to attack our country, which of the two would you rather call the shots? Trump or Biden?
Honestly.
One of main mantras is that Biden has Never been on the right side of National policy issues. He even voted to NOT go after Bin Laden. And, he would not miss one of his naps if he were president.