Biden v. Nebraska dissenting opinion in loan forgiveness

@wildgrass said
Congress did vote...

The Heroes Act gives the education secretary the authority to "waive or modify any statutory or regulatory provision" regarding federal student-loan programs as he or she "deems necessary in connection with a . . . national emergency."

In this ruling, SCOTUS is deeming things that Congress authorizes as unnecessary.

the heros act has ended 🙄

@mott-the-hoople said
the heros act has ended 🙄

When did it end? Seems like we could have saved a lot of ink if that were the case. Simple open/shut case.

edit: The HEROES act was passed unanimously in congress on three separate occasions, the last made it permanent in 2007, signed by George W. Bush.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_Education_Relief_Opportunities_For_Students_Act

@mott-the-hoople said
the heros act has ended 🙄

Laws don't end unless there's a specific expiration date in the statute or they are repealed or replaced by later legislation.

None of those apply to the HEROES act which remains in effect (at least until the SCOTUS guts some other or all of it by more specious reasoning).

@no1marauder said
Laws don't end unless there's a specific expiration date in the statute or they are repealed or replaced by later legislation.

None of those apply to the HEROES act which remains in effect (at least until the SCOTUS guts some other or all of it by more specious reasoning).

“Most HEROES Act waivers for the Title IV, HEA programs sunset at the end of a program’s first payment period that begins after the end of the national emergency. Therefore, most waivers provided to institutions under the HEROES Act will end at the end of the first payment period that begins after the national emergency ended on April 10, 2023.”

https://fsapartners.ed.gov/knowledge-center/library/electronic-announcements/2023-06-14/sunset-covid-19-waivers-and-flexibilities

@mott-the-hoople said
“Most HEROES Act waivers for the Title IV, HEA programs sunset at the end of a program’s first payment period that begins after the end of the national emergency. Therefore, most waivers provided to institutions under the HEROES Act will end at the end of the first payment period that begins after the national emergency ended on April 10, 2023.”

https://fsapartners ...[text shortened]... owledge-center/library/electronic-announcements/2023-06-14/sunset-covid-19-waivers-and-flexibilities

Student loan borrowers are not "institutions".

The Secretary of Education's statutory authority to waive and/or modify student loans caused by the hardships of the national emergency has no time limit in the law.

@no1marauder said
Student loan borrowers are not "institutions".

The Secretary of Education's statutory authority to waive and/or modify student loans caused by the hardships of the national emergency has no time limit in the law.

SCOTUS is wrong…marerider is right…gotcha😂

@vivify said
So if Congress voted to forgive student loans you'd be fine with it?

Oh,Vivify, I love the way you libs proving my points. You totally miss the issue. The question is not whether we would like it or not. If we said yes, or no, it would not be irrelevant. Why don’t you rephrase or rewrite your question.? no one cares if Mott would like Congress to pass it or not. Can you not see this is not the issue? If I were Suzianne I would call you a name.!

@suzianne said
Quote the bit in the Constitution that describes how forgiving debt is against the founders' wishes.

Clearly, it's you bozos that want to do away with constitutional rights.

"Present it to the Congress to decide"? I presume you mean the House. Are you daft? They can't do anything anymore except try to take Americans' rights away and bitch about each other on the floor of the House. It's the far-right agenda we know and hate.

Idiot!! You are saying, follow me here, that if we want to ‘do something, it would be perfectly fine to do it if the Constitution does not say that its articles are against it.
Eg, if we want to put a swimming pool in everyone’s backyard, and have the government pay for it, it does not say in the constitution anything about being against it.

Unbelievable, I could not read the rest of your post, I’m sorry.

@no1marauder said
Student loan borrowers are not "institutions".

The Secretary of Education's statutory authority to waive and/or modify student loans caused by the hardships of the national emergency has no time limit in the law.

Marsuder, aren’t you saying that Covid, which is long past is such an emergency, when it clearly is not.
For the record, if that qualifies as an emergency, what in the hell else in the future will people like you drag up to be an emergency to milk the government of money.? Why do you people always go to the government and try to get money? Parasite city.
Most families save for emergencies. You cannot tell me you don’t have a savings account. Why do liberals run to the government for… Oh, never mind I digress.

@no1marauder said
Laws don't end unless there's a specific expiration date in the statute or they are repealed or replaced by later legislation.

None of those apply to the HEROES act which remains in effect (at least until the SCOTUS guts some other or all of it by more specious reasoning).

Have you told us who the heroes are?certainly not the college losers Google that 70% of those parasites have said that when Scotus would have ruled in their favor, they were going to spend the money on Travel and dining. I am very disappointed in you , being on the low side of this discussion.

@mott-the-hoople said
SCOTUS is wrong…marerider is right…gotcha😂

The SCOTUS didn't claim the HEROES wasn't in effect anymore.

And yes the decision is wrong (as many SCOTUS decisions have been) both for ignoring long existing standing rules (largely established by right wing judges) and for applying the bogus "major questions" doctrine rather than interpreting the statute according to the language used by Congress.

@mott-the-hoople said
SCOTUS is wrong…marerider is right…gotcha😂

The DOJ is wrong about Trump, Mott is right...dipsh.t

@averagejoe1 said
Marsuder, aren’t you saying that Covid, which is long past is such an emergency, when it clearly is not.
For the record, if that qualifies as an emergency, what in the hell else in the future will people like you drag up to be an emergency to milk the government of money.? Why do you people always go to the government and try to get money? Parasite city.
Most famili ...[text shortened]... u don’t have a savings account. Why do liberals run to the government for… Oh, never mind I digress.

The law does not require the national emergency to be ongoing but only that the Secretary's power to waive and/or modify loan conditions to counter the direct economic hardships caused by a national emergency. That COVID caused direct hardships on student loan borrowers is hardly debatable; even the Trump administration used that provision of the law to pause payments.

@averagejoe1 said
Have you told us who the heroes are?certainly not the college losers Google that 70% of those parasites have said that when Scotus would have ruled in their favor, they were going to spend the money on Travel and dining. I am very disappointed in you , being on the low side of this discussion.

LMAO! You are truly a pathetic idiot.

The name of the law was: Higher Education Relief Opportunities for Students.

@no1marauder said
The law does not require the national emergency to be ongoing but only that the Secretary's power to waive and/or modify loan conditions to counter the direct economic hardships caused by a national emergency. That COVID caused direct hardships on student loan borrowers is hardly debatable; even the Trump administration used that provision of the law to pause payments.

Marauder: it also caused a factory that I am invested in to have a decrease in orders, had to fire 75% of crews. Other companies have lost money as well. Marauder?
Why do you avoid addressing this pesky fact! They are not bailed out, but rather someone said ‘hey let’s bail out college grad loans”.
Please tell us here, today…..why do you limit your comments about supporting student loan forgiveness to only that issue? That, student loans get paid? But not companies that bankrupted? The man with the donut shop down the street? The remodelling companies.....people cancelled remodel jobs. Everyone was fired. The catering company, no one had any more parties. Ahhhhhh, but the college graduates!!! Let's help THEM!!
Come on, open a serious discussion. Many entities other than college grads ‘ suffered hardships’.