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@suzianne said
I'd say that Trump cutting our forces down to 2,500 and then releasing 5,000 Taliban members (one of whom was the bomber himself, released from Bagram before the pullout) had a bit to do with that.
Further to this........
Trump issued the directive for the troop reduction on Nov 17, 2 weeks after the election.
This is a period when when the administration should be in transition mode, effectively managing the issues at hand.
Usually the most directives that should be coming out of the administration should be more administrative in nature.
Things like pardons. They usually give the media something to chew on.

A major policy directive of the order of troop management in Afghanistan should be left to the incoming administration, or at the very worst with the new administration heavily involved in the policy decision.

I've offered my opinion on the troop drawdown before and I will offer it again.
Trump's directive for the troop reduction in Afghanistan was a blatant attempt to throw the new administration under the bus.

In fact there was virtually no transition between Trump and Biden.
Trump was completely AWOL during the worst period of the pandemic.
And he spent most of his time in the courts and leaning on state governments trying to overturn an election he LOST !!!

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@mghrn55 said
Further to this........
Trump issued the directive for the troop reduction on Nov 17, 2 weeks after the election.
This is a period when when the administration should be in transition mode, effectively managing the issues at hand.
Usually the most directives that should be coming out of the administration should be more administrative in nature.
Things like pardons. They ...[text shortened]... f his time in the courts and leaning on state governments trying to overturn an election he LOST !!!
lets just forget Trump brought us the vaccine in RECORD TIME.

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@mghrn55 said
Cops waving for the people to enter ??

To do what ??
What was your expectation of what the people should do once they got waved in ??
Let's get to the heart of the matter.
why would I EXPECT them to do anything? The issue is, WHY were they waved in?

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@mott-the-hoople said
lets just forget Trump brought us the vaccine in RECORD TIME.
Yeah, he cooked it up in the White House all by himself.

Tell me, how much government money did the first company to make the vaccine in the US, Pfizer, receive?

Funny answer:

"The truth is that Pfizer didn’t receive any funding from Operation Warp Speed for the development, clinical trial and manufacturing of the vaccine. " https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-09/pfizer-vaccine-s-funding-came-from-berlin-not-washington

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@mott-the-hoople said
lets just forget Trump brought us the vaccine in RECORD TIME.
That vaccine would have been developed in record time irregardless of who was in the White House.
Do you really think the pharmaceutical companies would have been sitting on their hands if another President was in the White House ?
Are you that daft ???

Oh !! And btw..... The vaccine breakthrough was made in Germany !!
BioNTech partnering with Pfizer made the research breakthrough in Mainz, Germany.

I can just imagine the German scientists saying "we couldn't have done this without Trump".
🤣🤣🤣🤣

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@mott-the-hoople said
why would I EXPECT them to do anything? The issue is, WHY were they waved in?
Why don't you figure that out for yourself.

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@no1marauder said
Yeah, he cooked it up in the White House all by himself.

Tell me, how much government money did the first company to make the vaccine in the US, Pfizer, receive?

Funny answer:

"The truth is that Pfizer didn’t receive any funding from Operation Warp Speed for the development, clinical trial and manufacturing of the vaccine. " https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-09/pfizer-vaccine-s-funding-came-from-berlin-not-washington
pfizer got 1.95 billion

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/11/24/938591815/pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-supply-contract-excludes-many-taxpayer-protections

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@mghrn55 said
That vaccine would have been developed in record time irregardless of who was in the White House.
Do you really think the pharmaceutical companies would have been sitting on their hands if another President was in the White House ?
Are you that daft ???

Oh !! And btw..... The vaccine breakthrough was made in Germany !!
BioNTech partnering with Pfizer made the research ...[text shortened]...

I can just imagine the German scientists saying "we couldn't have done this without Trump".
🤣🤣🤣🤣
considering every other vaccine took five years yeah I think Trump did a hell of a job, now with biden and company lying so much no one feels it is safe.

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@mott-the-hoople said
pfizer got 1.95 billion

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/11/24/938591815/pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-supply-contract-excludes-many-taxpayer-protections
That had nothing to do with development of the vaccine:

"That nearly $2 billion contract will pay for 100 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine at a price of $19.50 per dose if the vaccine is OK'd by the Food and Drug Administration. "

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