21 Jan 21
@divegeester saidNice to read your words, Divegeester. Reminds me, that Wang fellow is still out there wanting universal basic income for everyone. Is it for everyone, including high end earners? Does he realize if for everyone, it would have a net-zero effect on the economy?
I sometimes wonder what needs to happen to make you happy.
I mean what did you expect, an announcement that Bernie will be made ‘chief of staff’ AND ‘head of everything’ and given licence to introduce a $50k minimum wage, imprison anyone earning over £75k, proclaim free healthcare for everyone, disarm all the nukes, give Israel the bird and donate 100bn to Palestine? ...[text shortened]... same about slow change for women, but I think it was more about his example lacking more increments.
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21 Jan 21
@shavixmir saidi nodded off.
I’m mostly interested if his words reached out to our conservative American friends.
I watched the whole speech (well, my wife did, I was on the couch being cocky).
When he spoke about Kamila being vice-president being proof that things can change... just after mentioning women got the vote 108 years ago... I said: “Slow bloody change.”
And when he asked what Ameri ...[text shortened]... udge the impact. So, seriously, I want to know how the right-wingers here experienced it.
Thanks.
21 Jan 21
@suzianne saidIt was quite a moving speech and one we did not hear from the previous POTUS.
I'm not right-wing, I did not support Donald Trump, and I've been waiting for this day for four long years.
When he finished, I had tears on my face and sniffles. All I could think was: "Finally."
It will be slow, but as Andy said America will heal.
-VR
@mghrn55 saidObama and Clinton were two of the better speakers of any modern day President I can remember. Biden did certainly get his point across, and great to see him going in a different direction and changing many things the Trumpster did on his first day.
Biden certainly is not a great speaker, not at the same level as Obama or Clinton, but in this case, substance matters over style.
And from that perspective, job well done !!
Note, for those who want to pop up out of their gopher holes and blather on about Trump's speaking style, I'll say this......
I'm sure he'll do well going on speaking tours through trailer parks....
The pipe line is going to be a big issues out west where it is estimated they will lose 1 billion dollars. I think that is the only conflict Canada will have with U.S.A. that is a major one.
I am very happy to see the Trumpster gone!
-VR
21 Jan 21
@shavixmir saidShav...and all....seriously, please weigh in your opinion of the unity issue. On the one hand, he was dead set on soothing us with promises of unity, us being about 75M people. Yet, he will stand by and allow the Congress and Senate to impeach Trump. This is anything but unifying.
So his words didn’t reach out to you?
Can I conclude that?
Everyone, should Biden abide by his promise of unity and end this?
21 Jan 21
@very-rusty saidI've mentioned 3 times in the Forum what shut-down of pipeline will do, but no one seems interested in this happening. Just let it happen? Let the chips (jobs and oil) fall where they may?
Obama and Clinton were two of the better speakers of any modern day President I can remember. Biden did certainly get his point across, and great to see him going in a different direction and changing many things the Trumpster did on his first day.
The pipe line is going to be a big issues out west where it is estimated they will lose 1 billion dollars. I think that is ...[text shortened]... nada will have with U.S.A. that is a major one.
I am very happy to see the Trumpster gone!
-VR
@averagejoe1 saidI believe an example has to be set or this will set as an example you can get away with invading the White House, and Trumpster was the one who told everyone to march to the White House and fight like hell.
Shav...and all....seriously, please weigh in your opinion of the unity issue. On the one hand, he was dead set on soothing us with promises of unity, us being about 75M people. Yet, he will stand by and allow the Congress and Senate to impeach Trump. This is anything but unifying.
Everyone, should Biden abide by his promise of unity and end this?
-VR
21 Jan 21
@averagejoe1 saidIt is a very difficult situation for sure. No argument about that!
I've mentioned 3 times in the Forum what shut-down of pipeline will do, but no one seems interested in this happening. Just let it happen? Let the chips (jobs and oil) fall where they may?
-VR
@averagejoe1 saidFirst Trump trips and drowns in a puddle of prostitute urine then we unify, K?
Shav...and all....seriously, please weigh in your opinion of the unity issue. On the one hand, he was dead set on soothing us with promises of unity, us being about 75M people. Yet, he will stand by and allow the Congress and Senate to impeach Trump. This is anything but unifying.
Everyone, should Biden abide by his promise of unity and end this?
21 Jan 21
@kevcvs57
I am waiting for the first charges to be brought against our former corrupter in chief.
But the right wingers are just castigating Biden before anything can be accomplished. For instance, Biden is taking over the Covid vaccine issue which Trump just cast on the states to do which of course just meant state competing with states to get the vaccine, left to fend on their own which is why we have a federal government, to handle world wide emergencies beyond the ability of a single state to cope.
But Trump was too incompetent to even CONTEMPLATE such a move, be an actual LEADER for a change. But that will be behind us when we get over the national hangover from the last four terrible years.
@great-big-stees saidNo but they might let him wash some feet. There are few candidates in the GOP that seem psychotic and narcissistic enough to fill the orange ones shoes.🍊👞👞
Will Pence be the new Messiah for the 75M?
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21 Jan 21
@great-big-stees saidCould be. Just follow the rules of being president, ,,,,th first one is his sworn oath on the capitol steps yesterday. The part about the Constitution,...... if he would have all of his people follow it, it would make the conservative lot of Republicans most happy indeed.
Will Pence be the new Messiah for the 75M?
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It is already in the book!!!!! Just follow it, doesnt even have to think about it. All else will fall into place as our forefathers meant it to be.
C'mon, Joe!
21 Jan 21
@averagejoe1 saidDo you think that Trump's actions leading up to the Jan 6th debacle is impeachable ?
Shav...and all....seriously, please weigh in your opinion of the unity issue. On the one hand, he was dead set on soothing us with promises of unity, us being about 75M people. Yet, he will stand by and allow the Congress and Senate to impeach Trump. This is anything but unifying.
Everyone, should Biden abide by his promise of unity and end this?
Or do you think that Trump's own "law and order" criminal justice system should apply instead ?
21 Jan 21
@shavixmir saidHe certainly didn't hear them, nor listened, I wager.
So his words didn’t reach out to you?
Can I conclude that?