18 Jan 07
Originally posted by RSMA1234I haven't watched the show.
Not sure if some of you watch the tv show, but its making all the wrong headlines in the UK.
Is the treatment of Shilpa by fellow housemate racist or women being bitchy ?
If two blond women get together and make rude comments about a brunette what would that be called (clearly it isn't racism but it is discrimination)
18 Jan 07
Originally posted by twhiteheadYes, and racism is a form of discrimination. All forms of discrimination should not be condoned.
I haven't watched the show.
If two blond women get together and make rude comments about a brunette what would that be called (clearly it isn't racism but it is discrimination)
18 Jan 07
Originally posted by lauseySaying bad things about someone else based on their differences from you is common place and probably actually protected to a certain extent under free speech. Everybody does it to a certain extent.
Yes, and racism is a form of discrimination. All forms of discrimination should not be condoned.
It becomes a much more problem when a person in a position of power discriminates against someone else to the disadvantage of the other person. Nevertheless it is still commonplace and not restricted to discrimination based on race.
The real question in this instance is that if it is a reality tv show why try to censor out the reality?
18 Jan 07
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Originally posted by RSMA1234It really is a bit of a rock and a hardplace or
I lot of the comments where just ignorant in my view. But the problem is that this has now gone into the Politcal sphere so it reflects badly on the UK. I live in London and the vast majority are decent / great people.
Bollywood tragedy meets British black comedy.
On the one hand, Shilpa wants to be treated as an equal
and when she is, which includes people not going the extra
mile to accomodate her unique differences, she screams bloody
murder.
On the other hand Jade and co. are unwilling to entertain the
moderate civil rituals of curtesy and understanding that act as a
cornerstone for intercultural relationships to be built upon.
On top of that both parties have got a gaggle of vultures hoping
they'll hang themselves.
IMO that Jermaine is the biggest racist in there. The rest is more
of a class war.
18 Jan 07
Originally posted by twhiteheadIn the UK, television station must confirm to guildlines about decency.
Saying bad things about someone else based on their differences from you is common place and probably actually protected to a certain extent under free speech. Everybody does it to a certain extent.
It becomes a much more problem when a person in a position of power discriminates against someone else to the disadvantage of the other person. Nevertheless ...[text shortened]... question in this instance is that if it is a reality tv show why try to censor out the reality?
The fact the UK TV regulator has had 20,000+ complaints (the most in its history) does demostrate some feelings towards whats is "reality TV gone a bit too far"...so yes I do think we need limits of reality shows.
I think it also comes down to intent, Whilst they are not openly calling her rascist names, the way they are acting has now gone beyond just women being bitchy. Each day we see something different. Comments like "go back home" or arguments over OXO cubes are examples.
The ironic thing is that in India many people are very unhappy about this, and where do most of the UK's call centres go to...yes you guessed it...its India.....I have a feeling that this may come back and bite some people who through no fault off their own have nothing to do with this negative impression of British people.
At the end of the day, I was born / educated / work & live in London and whilst I have had simlare things happen to me, I do realise that the vast majority of British people are not like that. But the impression the rest of the world is getting is very different. Is this something that we should really have to deal with ?
18 Jan 07
Originally posted by RSMA1234Not sure what you're getting at with the call centre link?
In the UK, television station must confirm to guildlines about decency.
The fact the UK TV regulator has had 20,000+ complaints (the most in its history) does demostrate some feelings towards whats is "reality TV gone a bit too far"...so yes I do think we need limits of reality shows.
I think it also comes down to intent, Whilst they are not openly ca ...[text shortened]... d is getting is very different. Is this something that we should really have to deal with ?
Are you meaning Indian workers will be less than professional with UK customers?
18 Jan 07
Originally posted by Thequ1ckAlso the ironic thing is that Jade "was" a trustee / patron of the anti-bullying charity before the show.....of course after her behaviour she is no long now.
It really is a bit of a rock and a hardplace or
Bollywood tragedy meets British black comedy.
On the one hand, Shilpa wants to be treated as an equal
and when she is, which includes people not going the extra
mile to accomodate her unique differences, she screams bloody
murder.
On the other hand Jade and co. are unwilling to entertain the
moder ...[text shortened]... selves.
IMO that Jermaine is the biggest racist in there. The rest is more
of a class war.
18 Jan 07
Originally posted by RedmikeIt may sounds strange to you...but yes ...they will
Not sure what you're getting at with the call centre link?
Are you meaning Indian workers will be less than professional with UK customers?
I already had a chat with one guy when I was chasing a bill via a call centre, the first topic he asked me was about CBB.
He also mentioned to me that some people will not be acting professionally because they are "her fans" or something like that.
18 Jan 07
Originally posted by RSMA1234That's interesting.
It may sounds strange to you...but yes ...they will
I already had a chat with one guy when I was chasing a bill via a call centre, the first topic he asked me was about CBB.
He also mentioned to me that some people will not be acting professionally because they are "her fans" or something like that.
Whenever I have contact with a call centre (and I don't just mean as a customer), I always get the impression that there was very little scope for idle chit-chat while the business was being done - their call volumes/times are so closely monitored.
I think someone tried to compare her status in India to that of princess Di (ed) or at leat Kylie Monogue, to get an understanding of the potential offence.
The thing I find most odd is that nobody in India has actually seen the program....
18 Jan 07
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Originally posted by RSMA1234Hey buddy, Shilpa isn't the only innocent party in this, she's an
In the UK, television station must confirm to guildlines about decency.
The fact the UK TV regulator has had 20,000+ complaints (the most in its history) does demostrate some feelings towards whats is "reality TV gone a bit too far"...so yes I do think we need limits of reality shows.
I think it also comes down to intent, Whilst they are not openly ca d is getting is very different. Is this something that we should really have to deal with ?
arrogant, self-pitying snob who needs some kind of kicking
to put her into touch.
If she was white I would expect her to get exactly the same kind
of treatment, only difference is she's making it worse for herself
by playing the race card.
18 Jan 07
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Originally posted by RSMA1234
In the UK, television station must confirm to guildlines about decency.
The fact the UK TV regulator has had 20,000+ complaints (the most in its history) does demostrate some feelings towards whats is "reality TV gone a bit too far"...so yes I do think we need limits of reality shows.
I think it also comes down to intent, Whilst they are not openly ca d is getting is very different. Is this something that we should really have to deal with ?
18 Jan 07
Originally posted by RedmikeProbably it is to do with the name. 🙂
That's interesting.
Whenever I have contact with a call centre (and I don't just mean as a customer), I always get the impression that there was very little scope for idle chit-chat while the business was being done - their call volumes/times are so closely monitored.
I think someone tried to compare her status in India to that of princess Di (ed) or a ...[text shortened]... ffence.
The thing I find most odd is that nobody in India has actually seen the program....
I have an Indian name (and half Indian). When phoning Orange, I got through to a call centre in India. The woman at the other end was more than happy to have a chit-chat (she even initiated it). Asking where I was from etc.