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Those who joined the US military certainly could be executed for desertion.

Crazy Horse never volunteered to be a member of the US military AFAIK.

Nope, Washington and Collins were waging a just war against a tyranny and doing so is a Natural Right.

Your last paragraph is both nonsense and an attempt to personalize the issue.

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Lee resigned his commission. He legally left the US Army.

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@eladar said
Lee resigned his commission. He legally left the US Army.
So what?

They didn't give him a license to "levy war" against the US.

He was lucky to avoid a noose.

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@no1marauder said
So what?

They didn't give him a license to "levy war" against the US.

He was lucky to avoid a noose.
Execution was for desertion. Lee was a more honorable man than you. He would never desert.

Was he executed as you suggest he should have been? If not, then why not?

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From President Grant

In my opinion the officers and men paroled at Appomattox Court-House, and since, upon the same terms given to Lee, cannot be tried for treason so long as they observe the terms of their parole. This is my understanding. Good faith, as well as true policy, dictates that we should observe the conditions of that convention. Bad faith on the part of the Government, or a construction of that convention subjecting the officers to trial for treason, would produce a feeling of insecurity in the minds of all the paroled officers and men. If so disposed they might even regard such an infraction of terms by the Government as an entire release from all obligations on their part. I will state further that the terms granted by me met with the hearty approval of the President at the time, and of the country generally. The action of Judge Underwood, in Norfolk, has already had an injurious effect, and I would ask that he be ordered to quash all indictments found against paroled prisoners of war, and to desist from further prosecution of them.

https://www.civilwarprofiles.com

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@eladar said
Execution was for desertion. Lee was a more honorable man than you. He would never desert.

Was he executed as you suggest he should have been? If not, then why not?
Traitors can get executed, too:

"18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

John Brown was executed for treason against Virginia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_(abolitionist)#November_2_to_December_2,_1859

The US decided to play nice after the Civil War and let Lee and other traitors off without charges. That does not change the fact that by the plain language of the Constitution he was a traitor.

Your silly attempt to personalize is noted but I never deserted nor levied war against the United States.

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@eladar said
From President Grant

In my opinion the officers and men paroled at Appomattox Court-House, and since, upon the same terms given to Lee, cannot be tried for treason so long as they observe the terms of their parole. This is my understanding. Good faith, as well as true policy, dictates that we should observe the conditions of that convention. Bad faith on the part of the Gov ...[text shortened]... risoners of war, and to desist from further prosecution of them.

https://www.civilwarprofiles.com
You obviously missed the reply I just quoted. Obviously you are an ignorant hack.

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@eladar said
From President Grant

In my opinion the officers and men paroled at Appomattox Court-House, and since, upon the same terms given to Lee, cannot be tried for treason so long as they observe the terms of their parole. This is my understanding. Good faith, as well as true policy, dictates that we should observe the conditions of that convention. Bad faith on the part of the Gov ...[text shortened]... risoners of war, and to desist from further prosecution of them.

https://www.civilwarprofiles.com
Grant had no legal training and his opinion was worthless. The Government decided not to prosecute for political reasons, not because Lee wasn't a traitor.

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@eladar said
You obviously missed the reply I just quoted. Obviously you are an ignorant hack.
GFY. I missed it because I was writing my own post, but it changes nothing.

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What is your point? Whatever reasons he was motivated by hardly matter; he levied war against the US and was thus a traitor.

Do other countries have statutes of traitors on government property?

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@no1marauder said
Grant had no legal training and his opinion was worthless. The Government decided not to prosecute for political reasons, not because Lee wasn't a traitor.
It was due to the surrender agreement. Grant was the one who set the conditions for Lee's surrender. You are obviously ignorant of history.

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In this case, it would be "helpful" since apologists for the CSA want to make heroes out of those who were willing to destroy the US to expand slavery.

A little accurate historical perspective might be quite useful given the misinformation many right wingers still cling to regarding the American Civil War.

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