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When in world history has censorship ever been done by good guys?
Censorship is anti democracy. That is why you have to be convinced you want censorship to protect democracy. That is the real big lie.

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@metal-brain said
When in world history has censorship ever been done by good guys?
Censorship is anti democracy. That is why you have to be convinced you want censorship to protect democracy. That is the real big lie.
All countries use censorship.
You can’t plan a D-day and simultaniously tell everyone what you’re doing.

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@shavixmir said
All countries use censorship.
You can’t plan a D-day and simultaniously tell everyone what you’re doing.
The psued known as shag doody for brains, that is not censorship, that is a matter of contract, a condition of employment. One party agrees with the other party that they will not disclose information to a third party, v o l u n t a r i l y.

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@shavixmir said
All countries use censorship.
You can’t plan a D-day and simultaniously tell everyone what you’re doing.
That is war. I am not talking about war and they do not usually censor. They deliberately spread disinformation to throw off the enemy. Remember how our news media reported that we were going to invade Iraq with an amphibious attack on the shore and it never happened?

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@wajoma said
The psued known as shag doody for brains, that is not censorship, that is a matter of contract, a condition of employment. One party agrees with the other party that they will not disclose information to a third party, v o l u n t a r i l y.
Fukk for brains. It is exactly censorship.
Same as redaction is censorship.

Really, if you’re gonna open yer gob, do it somewhere less pleasant.

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@metal-brain said
That is war. I am not talking about war and they do not usually censor. They deliberately spread disinformation to throw off the enemy. Remember how our news media reported that we were going to invade Iraq with an amphibious attack on the shore and it never happened?
Of course there is censorship in war. And spreading disinformation too.

Censorship happens outside of wartime too.
Secret services, for example.
But there are also gagging orders, etc.

There’s also censorship of news stories, often to protect people.

You can’t run a country without censorship.

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@shavixmir said
Of course there is censorship in war. And spreading disinformation too.

Censorship happens outside of wartime too.
Secret services, for example.
But there are also gagging orders, etc.

There’s also censorship of news stories, often to protect people.

You can’t run a country without censorship.
My first thought when the word censorship popped up? Our children. Shav is correct, a country, a society of people, has a first and foremost obligation to our children. Obscenity, etc, can ruin a child. It is impossible for a parent to teach right from wrong to a child, when the child is overwhelmed with the wrong.
So, our issue might be, what is obscenity, and we all would differ on that.

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@shavixmir said
Of course there is censorship in war. And spreading disinformation too.

Censorship happens outside of wartime too.
Secret services, for example.
But there are also gagging orders, etc.

There’s also censorship of news stories, often to protect people.

You can’t run a country without censorship.
I was referring to the news media, not war. Tucker did not reveal any top secret information.

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@metal-brain said
I was referring to the news media, not war. Tucker did not reveal any top secret information.
The title is censorship and world history.

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@metal-brain said
When in world history has censorship ever been done by good guys?
Censorship is anti democracy. That is why you have to be convinced you want censorship to protect democracy. That is the real big lie.
The idea of censorship is to protect people.

For example, suppose one finds out the real name and address of Metal Brain and makes an open, public call to murder Metal Brain.

For example, the messenger app Telegram bans such criminal posts.

The problem with censorship, however, is that it can be misused, and as a rule, it will be misused.

For example, Facebook's censorship doesn't follow its own written rules.
Facebook takes down absolutely innocent posts simply because some group of people does not like such facts, ideas, etc.

At the same time, Facebook does not take down even highly criminal posts if the victims are politically "justified victims".

In that way, Facebook censors facts that are proven and important, and endorses violence against, for example, Russians.

It means that Facebook's censorship is ideologically/politically motivated and biased.

The same applies to many other Big Tech platforms, for example, Twitter and Google.

It means that often, censorship is misused; it is applied not to protect people but as a weapon to spread one's ideology and suppress everything that is critical concerning it.

Everything that is initially good is finally used by bad guys.

Everything.

Now, if bad guys are using censorship on Facebook to promote their politics, then all countries that are suffering from that biased censorship on Facebook are justified to censor Facebook and ban it, block it.

This is how I understand these issues.

For example, those countries who have banned Wikipedia have done the right thing because Wikipedia in fact is not an encyclopedia but a propaganda machine.

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Ah, OUR children. I guess that doesn't count for those eight dead children held in cages by the thousands.
You are SUCH a hypocrite.

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@eintaluj said
The idea of censorship is to protect people.

For example, suppose one finds out the real name and address of Metal Brain and makes an open, public call to murder Metal Brain.

For example, the messenger app Telegram bans such criminal posts.

The problem with censorship, however, is that it can be misused, and as a rule, it will be misused.

For example, Facebook' ...[text shortened]... have done the right thing because Wikipedia in fact is not an encyclopedia but a propaganda machine.
"For example, the messenger app Telegram bans such criminal posts."

That is criminal as you already said. Tucker did not break any laws.

https://reclaimthenet.org/rfk-jr-on-censorship

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@metal-brain said
"For example, the messenger app Telegram bans such criminal posts."

That is criminal as you already said. Tucker did not break any laws.

https://reclaimthenet.org/rfk-jr-on-censorship
Why are you so hot for tucker?

He was sacked because he is a lying piece of 💩, a nasty git, a pedler of conspiracies and a disgusting semi-human being; not because he was breaking laws.

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@metal-brain said
"For example, the messenger app Telegram bans such criminal posts."

That is criminal as you already said. Tucker did not break any laws.

https://reclaimthenet.org/rfk-jr-on-censorship
I did not say anything about Tucker. I responded to your initial general view about censorship.

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@eintaluj said
I did not say anything about Tucker. I responded to your initial general view about censorship.
As did we all.
Seemingly Metal Brain had a devious side-agenda going.

Ironic how he censored Tucker ftom his original post….

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