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@soothfast said
Well, it should be pointed out that "mathematics" is not the same as "mathematics education."

And I also feel it should be pointed out that this professor is not a mathematics professor. He's a member of a department or college within the university that has a name that reads off like a laundry list of separate subjects.
Well his bio says he's a certified Mathematics Teacher for K-12 and he currently teaches undergraduate courses in Teaching Mathematics. https://peabody.vanderbilt.edu/bio/luis-leyva

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I need to clarify something here. I've mentioned social-emotional learning (SEL) a few times in this thread, and that's because it is really SEL theory that is the vehicle driving controversial or political content into K-12 mathematics textbooks in the US. I have nothing to say about critical-race theory (CRT).

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@mott-the-hoople said
“According to his university bio, he conducts studies on “narratives of oppression and agency across historically marginalized groups’ educational experiences to uncover interlocking functions of racismand cisheteropatriarchy in undergraduate STEM."”
Where's the "math is racist" part?

Clearly he believes systemic racism effects the teaching of Mathematics in the US, but that's obviously different from saying "math is racist".

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@soothfast said
Well, it should be pointed out that "mathematics" is not the same as "mathematics education."

And I also feel it should be pointed out that this professor is not a mathematics professor. He's a member of a department or college within the university that has a name that reads off like a laundry list of separate subjects.
Well, he never should have been lecturing to these people, in that case.

There also was a woman (name forgotten) that was at one time hired by the school boards of California and Tennesse.
She claimed that the method of teaching students to get the correct answer is racist and white supremacist.

But we've known for a long time that communists and socialists make functionality take a back seat to social "correctness"

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@no1marauder said
Well his bio says he's a certified Mathematics Teacher for K-12 and he currently teaches undergraduate courses in Teaching Mathematics. https://peabody.vanderbilt.edu/bio/luis-leyva
Yes, many universities have an Education Department, where you'll find professors who purport to teach prospective teachers how to teach. Such professors usually have a doctor of education degree (Ed.D.), and are not rightfully considered mathematics professors. As I said to Earl, there's "mathematics" and then there's "mathematics education."

And yes, someone with an Ed.D. might teach what are considered the developmental or remedial math courses at a university, which may go up to the level of high school algebra.

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@no1marauder said
Well his bio says he's a certified Mathematics Teacher for K-12 and he currently teaches undergraduate courses in Teaching Mathematics. https://peabody.vanderbilt.edu/bio/luis-leyva
it doesnt say he is a math teacher…dayyyuuuum

“As an educational researcher, Leyva draws on his professional experience as a certified K-12 mathematics teacher and his various leadership roles across STEM support programs. Leyva holds over six years of experience in student programs at Rutgers University for increasing STEM retention and success among underrepresented groups, including his roles as a residential mentor in STEM living-learning communities and as a mathematics teacher for the Upward Bound Math-Science summer bridge program.”

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@no1marauder said
Well his bio says he's a certified Mathematics Teacher for K-12 and he currently teaches undergraduate courses in Teaching Mathematics. https://peabody.vanderbilt.edu/bio/luis-leyva
I see from your link that the man has a Ph.D. in mathematics education. That's like an Ed.D. who has specialized in teaching the teaching of mathematics, specifically.

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@earl-of-trumps said
I have suggested before that what the WOKEs are pushing for is separate-but-equal again, but, now I think you are right.

The far left is Marxist. They want everyone to be the same. having everyone get the same grade
affords them the chance to say that we are all equal. But the way to do that is to make sure that everyone can
answer a math problem any way that th ...[text shortened]... to agree with an all-new teaching approach to math is to suggest that our current method is RACIST.
Teachers would love nothing better than to give each kid an individualized education in each subject. That will probably never be achievable in the real world, but we might come closer to the ideal if Republicans would just quit slashing education spending to pay for Mark Zuckerberg's tax cuts.

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@soothfast said
I see from your link that the man has a Ph.D. in mathematics education. That's like an Ed.D. who has specialized in teaching the teaching of mathematics, specifically.
" ...... Leyva draws on his professional experience as a certified K-12 mathematics teacher .........."

Right under the "Prism" picture.

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@no1marauder said
" ...... Leyva draws on his professional experience as a certified K-12 mathematics teacher .........."

Right under the "Prism" picture.
did you miss this?

“As an educational researcher,"

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@no1marauder said
" ...... Leyva draws on his professional experience as a certified K-12 mathematics teacher .........."

Right under the "Prism" picture.
I'm not sure what we're even arguing here. A K-12 teacher is not usually called a professor in the US, and anyone who teaches at a university, but not within the mathematics department of that university, is not a "mathematics professor" really.

Mathematics professors usually have a Ph.D. in mathematics or some closely related subject (e.g. statistics). Community colleges are an exception, where a master's degree suffices.

In a nutshell, the guy is not what I would call a mathematician. He has never done any original research in an area of mathematics, as would be required to obtain a Ph.D. in mathematics or a closely related field. His jam is mathematics pedagogy.

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@soothfast said
I'm not sure what we're even arguing here. A K-12 teacher is not usually called a professor in the US, and anyone who teaches at a university, but not within the mathematics department of that university, is not a "mathematics professor" really.

Mathematics professors usually have a Ph.D. in mathematics or some closely related subject (e.g. statistics). Community colle ...[text shortened]... uired to obtain a Ph.D. in mathematics or a closely related field. His jam is mathematics pedagogy.
So what? I thought this diversion was about teaching mathematics, specifically to students in K-12, which he has done. He also teaches undergrads how to teach mathematics.

What is missing from his qualifications IYO as regards this issue at hand?

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@mott-the-hoople said
did you miss this?

“As an educational researcher,"
No, I didn't.

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@no1marauder said
No, I didn't.
well why then do you insist he is a k-12 math teacher at Peabody college in Nashville?

do you have any idea how stupid that is?

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@mott-the-hoople said
well why then do you insist he is a k-12 math teacher at Peabody college in Nashville?

do you have any idea how stupid that is?
I didn't, you idiot.

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