05 May 22
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https://apnews.com/article/boris-johnson-elections-campaigns-ireland-brexit-6701c1aa325046ce41f0178c9253717b
The Sinn Fein party, which is pro-reunification of Ireland, is the favorite to win the largest number of seats in the Assembly election. They hold influence in both Ireland and N. Ireland.
Could their win pave the way to reunification? Pro-unionists are a minority in N. Ireland.
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05 May 22
@vivify saidNot real familiar with the politics, over there, but
https://apnews.com/article/boris-johnson-elections-campaigns-ireland-brexit-6701c1aa325046ce41f0178c9253717b
The Sinn Fein party, which is pro-reunification of Ireland, is the favorite to win the largest number of seats in the Assembly election. They hold influence in both Ireland and N. Ireland.
Could their win pave the way to reunification? Pro-unionists are a minority in N. Ireland.
wasn't Sinn Fein, the political arm of the 'Rebel IRA?
Are those two old adversaries close enough, anymore,
to join forces and re-unite Ireland?.............Hooray....
Inspired by CARTER? REAGAN? THATCHER?.........Can't recall'
05 May 22
@jimm619 saidWhy do they have to be inspired by Anglos from foreign countries?
Not real familiar with the politics, over there, but
wasn't Sinn Fein, the political arm of the 'Rebel IRA?
Are those two old adversaries close enough, anymore,
to join forces and re-unite Ireland?.............Hooray....
Inspired by CARTER? REAGAN? THATCHER?.........Can't recall'
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05 May 22
@athousandyoung saidNot mandatory, just usually takes a
Why do they have to be inspired by Anglos from foreign countries?
third party to mediate things.....a la' Carter, Israel & Egypt.
I thought the truce had been brokered by a third party.
Sound fair enough?
07 May 22
@vivify saidI don’t think the republic of Ireland wants unification. I mean, that would mean having to deal with the Ulster Unionists… who the hell wants to inheret them?
https://apnews.com/article/boris-johnson-elections-campaigns-ireland-brexit-6701c1aa325046ce41f0178c9253717b
The Sinn Fein party, which is pro-reunification of Ireland, is the favorite to win the largest number of seats in the Assembly election. They hold influence in both Ireland and N. Ireland.
Could their win pave the way to reunification? Pro-unionists are a minority in N. Ireland.
07 May 22
@vivify saidHopefully it represents a trend as younger people start voting for the positive future they want rather than the negative one they feel they have to in the name of tribal loyalties.
https://apnews.com/article/boris-johnson-elections-campaigns-ireland-brexit-6701c1aa325046ce41f0178c9253717b
The Sinn Fein party, which is pro-reunification of Ireland, is the favorite to win the largest number of seats in the Assembly election. They hold influence in both Ireland and N. Ireland.
Could their win pave the way to reunification? Pro-unionists are a minority in N. Ireland.
I worried that Brexit was going to derail this natural progression to a united Ireland but good to see it’s still gathering steam
07 May 22
@athousandyoung saidThe US is / was seen as an honest broker by London, Dublin and the two communities within the north east of Ireland.
Why do they have to be inspired by Anglos from foreign countries?
They weren’t inspired by anyone in the US or anywhere else.
07 May 22
@vivify saidProbably not, though it will further the argument for a "Border poll". The DUP were heavily pro brexit, and the local elections were a protest vote. I don't think that would translate into a unification result in any border poll. I live in the republic.
https://apnews.com/article/boris-johnson-elections-campaigns-ireland-brexit-6701c1aa325046ce41f0178c9253717b
The Sinn Fein party, which is pro-reunification of Ireland, is the favorite to win the largest number of seats in the Assembly election. They hold influence in both Ireland and N. Ireland.
Could their win pave the way to reunification? Pro-unionists are a minority in N. Ireland.
07 May 22
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Is there any place to get results in actual seats? The first preference totals are easily available, but not the seat changes and more then half have been called.
Help me out here, Euros.
EDIT: Well I just found this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2022/may/06/northern-ireland-election-2022-live-results-assembly-seats-and-votes
It's helpful, but it doesn't tell me if the parties are gaining or losing seats in the places that have been called.
I note that in all the border counties, parties that favor unification are receiving comfortable majorities. Negotiations should start to have these areas incorporated into the Republic immediately.
07 May 22
I did find a site: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-61333297
As of now because of Northern Ireland's weird election rules for its Assembly, Sein Fein wouldn't gain any seat and would only become the largest party because the DUP is losing two. Alliance is the biggest winner so far with a gain of 5 seats.
07 May 22
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@no1marauder saidIf you go to the bbc website they have a detailed breakdown but according to them Sein Fein is projected to be the biggest single party in the stormont assembly.
I did find a site: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-61333297
As of now because of Northern Ireland's weird election rules for its Assembly, Sein Fein wouldn't gain any seat and would only become the largest party because the DUP is losing two. Alliance is the biggest winner so far with a gain of 5 seats.
The other big winner is the alliance party which spans both sides of the of the unionist / Republican divide but I see that as a de facto progression in terms of unification. I think young people are seeing a better future in a united Ireland within the EU.
07 May 22
@kevcvs57 saidAlliance is essentially liberal Unionism.
If you go to the bbc website they have a detailed breakdown but according to them Sein Fein is projected to be the biggest single party in the stormont assembly.
The other big winner is the alliance party which spans both sides of the of the unionist / Republican divide but I see that as a de facto progression in terms of unification. I think young people are seeing a better future in a united Ireland within the EU.
07 May 22
@no1marauder saidThat’s not my impression in fact it sounds like a contradiction in terms.
Alliance is essentially liberal Unionism.
It’s more agnostic about unification but the fact that people from both sides of the old sectarian divide are seeing politics as separate from that one issue can only be good for the future prospects of unification. It will only happen when it becomes a nothing burger for the traditionally unionist side of the community.
The more both sides see themselves as Europeans more than from one tribe or another the more likely it is that they’ll take the logical step of unification of the island under Dublin.
07 May 22
@kevcvs57 saidAlliance is the opposite of seeing the People of Northern Ireland as "Europeans": "The distinguishing feature of Alliance is its belief in the legitimacy of a distinctive Northern Ireland community, one that has more in common than what divides it, with most inhabitants speaking a common language, sharing some form of Christianity, and not separated by distinguishable racial or physical characteristics. "Its people are one community living in what has been called a place apart, but sharing a great deal with the rest of this island, the rest of these islands, and the rest of the developed world". (Alliance 1992)"
That’s not my impression in fact it sounds like a contradiction in terms.
It’s more agnostic about unification but the fact that people from both sides of the old sectarian divide are seeing politics as separate from that one issue can only be good for the future prospects of unification. It will only happen when it becomes a nothing burger for the traditionally unionist s ...[text shortened]... the more likely it is that they’ll take the logical step of unification of the island under Dublin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_Party_of_Northern_Ireland
Those who support the unification of Ireland aren't voting Alliance, which pretends that isn't even a major concern. It even opposes the power sharing parts of the odious Good Friday Agreements, the practical effect of that position being that Unionist parties would have had untrammeled power in the occupied part of Ireland ever since (well in the rather few years the UK even allowed a NI Assembly).