06 Mar 23
@no1marauder saidThis issue !! is that they feel like they have to tell us that they cavort sexually with people of the same sex. If you want to compare them to St Patty parade, the IRISH have absolutely no message at all. They are a party on wheels, not telling us anything. They do not feel the neeeeeeeeeeed to tell us anything.
They don't care about you. If such a parade bothers you, don't go to it.
St. Patricks Day Parades are next week; do you think those who participate in them are "talking to you"?
For the record, I think that they should not blight our landscape with their sexuality, I have a child that I am teaching how to beat crap out of anyone who bothers him.....he could not do that if he were gay. We would you be cool if a devil worship parade parked in your front yard to tell your neighbors about themselves?
You note the distinctions, mine are about real motive and intent, , and yours is about the parade itself.
06 Mar 23
@no1marauder saidThere are degrees of hysteria. On a 1 to 10 scale, I am a 10. Care to tell us where you are on that scale? We are speaking of the illegal aliens, of course. Legals are welcome in my book, cheaper lettuce???
LOL! Well, it took a 100 years or so, but outright anti-Irish bigotry is kinda passe now.
I do wonder whether residual anti-Catholicism plays a part in the hysterical anti-Hispanic immigration position of most right wingers.
06 Mar 23
@no1marauder saidYes, one family member did, last summer. But you are right, no one has ever come up to me and explained gay. Are you suggesting that it doesn't really happen? In-your-face stuff? They could be televising it from CA, and not 'coming up to me',
I'm sure that happens a lot to you; strangers coming up to you to "explain gay".
@no1marauder saidSegue-er, I am simply defending my parental right to keep my children away from LGBSJYQT people, that they will hopefully not be influenced in any way by them. That is the point. So, your rote comments here don't really fit in here.
I can understand a parent not wanting to take their children to a drag show.
I can understand a parent wanting to take their children to a drag show.
Either way, it's none of my or the State of Tennessee's business.
We can all agree that parental rights are under attack,,,,,,,and, as I always say, you fellers will win. Many of you think all of our children belong to evvvvveeeerrrrrryy body. Jesus.
06 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidWell I’ve never been accosted by anyone in drag to the best of my knowledge and I’ve taken my kids and grandkids to quite a few Pantomimes.
Good post. We know drag shows exist. They are legal and fine, went to one once in Key West, sad as I put a $5 in the bucket being passed around. But, when I leave, I dont want them following after me telling why or how they are what they are. Why do you fellers pretend not to get it....I am sort-of writing to Marauder too.
So,,,Can you not understand a parent not ...[text shortened]... es, and there are resulting problems... OR, OR, do you think it is cool? That you would do it.....
There’s no getting around the fact that babies cannot go to see drag artistes on their own so the parents are clearly voting with their feet on this one so how come right wing freedom fighters are enraged about this when they are the first ones to scream parental rights.
It’s not making any sense
06 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidActually the roots of the St. Patrick's Day Parades are similar to Gay Pride ones:
This issue !! is that they feel like they have to tell us that they cavort sexually with people of the same sex. If you want to compare them to St Patty parade, the IRISH have absolutely no message at all. They are a party on wheels, not telling us anything. They do not feel the neeeeeeeeeeed to tell us anything.
For the record, I think that they should not blight ...[text shortened]... ote the distinctions, mine are about real motive and intent, , and yours is about the parade itself.
"During the 1800s, when Irish Catholic immigrants faced discrimination in Protestant-majority America, St. Paddy’s Day parades became an opportunity to show strength in numbers."
https://www.history.com/topics/st-patricks-day/history-of-st-patricks-day-parades-around-the-world
Gay Pride parades had basically the same motivation among others:
"Until 1969, the thought of a large group of LGBTQ people celebrating their sexual orientation in public was unthinkable. For centuries, homosexuality had been stigmatized, criminalized, and persecuted. “Coming out” came with threats of violence and social ostracism.
But that changed in the aftermath of the 1969 Stonewall uprising—when a group of LGBTQ people rioted in response to a police raid of the Stonewall Inn, a gay bar in New York City. In Stonewall’s wake, thousands of LGBTQ people took to the street to demand their civil rights. Now known as the first Pride parades, the gay liberation marches that took place in New York and other U.S. cities in 1970 were raucous celebrations of identity—and a provocative peek at the decades of activism to follow. "
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/inside-the-first-pride-parade-a-raucous-protest-for-gay-liberation-lgbtq
This is history that you were never taught and if right wing fanatics like DeSantis get their way no one ever will be.
06 Mar 23
@kevcvs57 saidGood points. But Marauder is not making sense, you see is posts that I should be accepting of gays in my face, but Mayor Eric of NYC just got slammed by the liberal media for inserting faith into a speech. So it is OK with Maruader that the lib media jump on Eric about faith, but they should not jump on me for slamming the gay people talking about sex. Wonder which would be considered worse....
Well I’ve never been accosted by anyone in drag to the best of my knowledge and I’ve taken my kids and grandkids to quite a few Pantomimes.
There’s no getting around the fact that babies cannot go to see drag artistes on their own so the parents are clearly voting with their feet on this one so how come right wing freedom fighters are enraged about this when they are the first ones to scream parental rights.
It’s not making any sense
Sensless, indeed.
06 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidJoe you're either stupid or a liar. IF you don't want gays in your face, I'm fine with that. But I don't accept your premise that a Gay Pride Parade is somehow "in your face"; if you don't like it don't go to one. If you don't want to talk to gays because of your bigoted beliefs, don't.
Good points. But Marauder is not making sense, you see is posts that I should be accepting of gays in my face, but Mayor Eric of NYC just got slammed by the liberal media for inserting faith into a speech. So it is OK with Maruader that the lib media jump on Eric about faith, but they should not jump on me for slamming the gay people talking about sex. Wonder which would be considered worse....
Sensless, indeed.
See how easy that is? Now if only Republican legislatures would stop messing with the rights of gay and transgender people and parents everything would be hunky dory.
@no1marauder saidYou need to rewrite this post. I do not mention punishing parents. Weird stuff marauder.
Wow. That really says it all, doesn't it? Far from being a fan of "limited government", you think it's quite OK for the State to pass penal laws punishing parents on some vague concept that's it is "harmful" for people to be gay.
For the purposes of State laws, I'd say "harmful to minors", as far as parents are concerned, should be limited to those actions that cause d ...[text shortened]... s like yourself he think they know what is better for other people's children then their parents do.
Your second paragraph is also meaningless. Last sentence. …That I think that I know what is better for other people’s children, than they do. Golly did I say that
06 Mar 23
Chris Rock, who I like, which thus makes me not a racist, said in his one hour comedy act that there is a sign on his wife’s Yoga class door, “We do not accept sexism, racism, age, ism, classism, etc. etc.”. He blurts to his audience, “I don’t give a D… what they don’t accept! I just want my yoga pants!!!”
This is it in a nutshell for me, everybody can vote now. Start another thread.!!!!!
@no1marauder saidObvious answer here is to ask you …why are there no “Straight Parades”? Can you answer-us that one? If there were, tell us, what would be their message?
Joe you're either stupid or a liar. IF you don't want gays in your face, I'm fine with that. But I don't accept your premise that a Gay Pride Parade is somehow "in your face"; if you don't like it don't go to one. If you don't want to talk to gays because of your bigoted beliefs, don't.
See how easy that is? Now if only Republican legislatures would stop messing with the rights of gay and transgender people and parents everything would be hunky dory.
Yes, in my face. Sitting with normal people in a wine garden , and one of those flamers comes walking in , elbows at 90° , loose wrists, everything about him was female everything. Do you think that that would be very comfortable for a normal man to sit next to? Do you think , (after staring, I have never been that close to one) do you think I left?
Did you limit your comment above to Republicans legislators? Are u a fanatic Marauder, I sense a bit of Sonhouse. Wonder where he has been anyway.
Do you seriously think that every Democratic legislator is OK with, for instance, the weightlifter, who is beating everyone in the ladies competition who used to be a man, but had his junk done whatever? Normal democrat, legislators may hate it, but trust me they don’t like it one bit. I guess we will never know, will we. But I know.
06 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidRe-read my post regarding parades and you might understand why there aren't explicitly "straight" parades; that group has never experienced discrimination. In a sense, all parades were for "straights"; others weren't welcome.
Obvious answer here is to ask you …why are there no “Straight Parades”? Can you answer-us that one? If there were, tell us, what would be their message?
Yes, in my face. Sitting with normal people in a wine garden , and one of those flamers comes walking in , elbows at 90° , loose wrists, everything about him was female everything. Do you think that that would ...[text shortened]... it next to? Do you think , (after staring, I have never been that close to one) do you think I left?
If you're such a bigot even being around a gay person makes you uncomfortable, you should get counseling.
06 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidThere ARE straight parades.
Obvious answer here is to ask you …why are there no “Straight Parades”? Can you answer-us that one? If there were, tell us, what would be their message?
Yes, in my face. Sitting with normal people in a wine garden , and one of those flamers comes walking in , elbows at 90° , loose wrists, everything about him was female everything. Do you think that that would ...[text shortened]... it next to? Do you think , (after staring, I have never been that close to one) do you think I left?
https://nypost.com/2022/08/28/straight-pride-march-clashes-with-protesters-in-california/amp/