Declaration of Independence

@no1marauder said
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,"

@mott-the-hoople said
“"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,"”

and then proceeded with ...[text shortened]... ibs…there are rights, and there are constitutional rights. Learn how to distinguish between the two.

@mott-the-hoople said
“"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,"”

and then proceeded with ...[text shortened]... ibs…there are rights, and there are constitutional rights. Learn how to distinguish between the two.

@averagejoe1 said
Yes. So? Dont tell me that you are one of the persons that do not understand the Roe decision, and that has elected to harp about abortion from a different point of view. Marauder, that point of view has been on the forum for years....Should a woman abort (or be able to abort) of her own volition. Great question, y'all stay with it. But don't confuse people like Jimmmmm by bringing the Constitution into it. It is not involved, nor is SCOTUS.

@no1marauder said
Really? What is the difference according to you?

@mott-the-hoople said
Amazing this has to be explaned. The USA is just that, several states united together under a set of laws (constitution)
The people are guaranteed certain rights by that constitution. There is a section (bill or rights) explaining those rights.

The individual states are allowed to give citizens further rights as long as they comply with those listed in the constitution.

I can breakout the crayons and add pictures if need be.

@mott-the-hoople said
Amazing this has to be explaned. The USA is just that, several states united together under a set of laws (constitution)
The people are guaranteed certain rights by that constitution. There is a section (bill or rights) explaining those rights.

The individual states are allowed to give citizens further rights as long as they comply with those listed in the constitution.

I can breakout the crayons and add pictures if need be.

@no1marauder said
Will you read the Ninth Amendment please?

People aren't "given" rights by governments or by documents written by men; read the DoC.

and BTW why dont YOU explain the 9th?

All you ever post is HAVE YOU READ THE NINTH? you never say nothing more as if it backs up your claim.

well Im giving you the chance…go

@mott-the-hoople said
what fool thinks the US govt doesnt give citizens rights?

you are too stupid to talk with

@mott-the-hoople said
what fool thinks the US govt doesnt give citizens rights?

you are too stupid to talk with

@mghrn55 said
What Creator ?? Babbling again ? 😛

@averagejoe1 said
I go this, Sleepy. Hey, Teach!....Marauder! Your confusing posts may be reason that the jjimmm person writes like an idiot, something to think about it. I get a bit twitchy, myself.
We do have immigration laws. Love your saying 'anti-immigration" laws. Anyway, we gladly have admitted millions of immigrants, love them to death. Constitution framers were correct, ...[text shortened]... k about President Biden, after all the work that had been done for 244 years, before he took office?

@wajoma said
All humans have rights, the same rights. Just because the New Zealand goobermint or the North Korean goobermint abuses those rights doesn't mean people don't have them, it just means exactly what it says, the very organisation supposedly meant to protect those rights is invariably the worst abusers.

@mott-the-hoople said
“all humans have rights”

umm no, they dont, unless given