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no1marauder
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@metal-brain said
"No, he tweeted pretending they were being peaceful when he could see they weren't."

That is not true. He never tweeted that. You are lying, not Trump.

"He also resisted doing anything to stop the violence and criticized those who were advising him to do so."

What is your source of information?
"Former President Trump reportedly told House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy during a phone call on Jan. 6 that the rioters were “more upset about the election” than the California Republican.

CNN on Friday reported the details of the expletive-filled call between Trump and McCarthy, citing Republicans who were briefed on the call.

The news outlet reported that McCarthy pressed Trump to call off the riot, and they ended up in a shouting match.

According to the lawmakers, Trump said, “Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are.”"

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/538714-trump-told-mccarthy-that-rioters-more-upset-about-the-election-than-you-are/

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@no1marauder said
You are a massive hypocrite. The same article you use to describe the Massachusetts Democratic Party not submitting Williamson's name for the primary ballot points out that the Massachusetts Republican Party did the same thing in 2020 regarding an opponent to the incumbent President even though that opponent had been Governor of Massachusetts! Yet, you never raved and ran ...[text shortened]... of political parties not aiding challengers to incumbents (but only if it is the Democratic Party).
You are lying again. Mass will not allow Chris Christie on the primary ballot either, but it is not the same thing. Christie did not get enough signatures in time. Don't say it is the same thing unless it is.

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"As his own supporters breached the U.S. Capitol and began ransacking the seat of American democracy on Jan. 6, then-President Donald Trump remained holed up in his dining room. There, he watched the increasingly violent scene play out on television and resisted calls from those closest to him to urge the rioters to disperse, instead stewing over his recent electoral loss.

That's the scene painted in a sprawling new hour-by-hour investigation by The Washington Post, which retraces how Trump resisted the efforts of everyone from his chief of staff to his daughter and adviser Ivanka, who urged him to do something to put a halt to the mayhem."

https://people.com/politics/new-report-details-how-donald-trump-resisted-pleas-to-stop-capitol-rioters/

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@metal-brain said
You are lying again. Mass will not allow Chris Christie on the primary ballot either, but it is not the same thing. Christie did not get enough signatures in time. Don't say it is the same thing unless it is.
Read the article you cited, moron.

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@no1marauder said
"Former President Trump reportedly told House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy during a phone call on Jan. 6 that the rioters were “more upset about the election” than the California Republican.

CNN on Friday reported the details of the expletive-filled call between Trump and McCarthy, citing Republicans who were briefed on the call.

[b]The news outlet reported that M ...[text shortened]... m/homenews/house/538714-trump-told-mccarthy-that-rioters-more-upset-about-the-election-than-you-are/
That proves nothing. Upset and violent are not the same thing and how do you know what Trump saw? Were you there?

I think you heard a false allegation. Check your sources and double check them. You have not proven anything.

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@metal-brain said
That proves nothing. Upset and violent are not the same thing and how do you know what Trump saw? Were you there?

I think you heard a false allegation. Check your sources and double check them. You have not proven anything.
That you are a stubborn idiot who won't accept facts is well known here.

People who were there testified under oath, as you would know if you had even briefly glanced at the articles I've cited.

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I'll help you:

"But there are two other ways to get on the primary ballot in Massachusetts. Candidates can submit 2,500 nominating signatures to local election officials by Friday, or the secretary of state can add candidates who have been “recognized by the national media” if their party doesn’t put their name forward."

"Submitting only the incumbent’s name for the presidential primary is not unusual in Massachusetts. The Massachusetts GOP put forward only then-President Donald Trump’s name in 2020 — even though the state’s former governor, Bill Weld, was among his challengers. Galvin later placed Weld on the ballot."

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/20/williamson-ballot-access-massachusetts-00132727

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@no1marauder said
"As his own supporters breached the U.S. Capitol and began ransacking the seat of American democracy on Jan. 6, then-President Donald Trump remained holed up in his dining room. There, he watched the increasingly violent scene play out on television and resisted calls from those closest to him to urge the rioters to disperse, instead stewing over his recent electoral loss ...[text shortened]... ps://people.com/politics/new-report-details-how-donald-trump-resisted-pleas-to-stop-capitol-rioters/
This is your witness?
She has lied before. She has no credibility.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/02/11/alyssa-farah-griffin-admits-she-lied-about-desantis-lack-of-apology-sparks-twitter-dogpile-1332135/

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@metal-brain said
This is your witness?
She has lied before. She has no credibility.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/02/11/alyssa-farah-griffin-admits-she-lied-about-desantis-lack-of-apology-sparks-twitter-dogpile-1332135/
You're a complete joke. If anybody has "no credibility" it would be Donald Trump, but he hasn't been willing to sit under oath and testify.

Numerous members of Trump's inner circle present with him on the afternoon of January 6th, 2001 gave testimony. https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-hearing-targets-interviews-029d6a76146b4735b9e05bb70f41916f

None contradicted the fact that Trump resisted doing anything to stop the violence or summon additional reinforcements for hours.

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@no1marauder said
Read the article you cited, moron.
Amazing things commas. In this instance without one it would suggest that the metalled one is a cited moron, which is totally backed up by his forum history.

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@no1marauder said
You're a complete joke. If anybody has "no credibility" it would be Donald Trump, but he hasn't been willing to sit under oath and testify.

Numerous members of Trump's inner circle present with him on the afternoon of January 6th, 2001 gave testimony. https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-hearing-targets-interviews-029d6a76146b4735b9e05bb70f41916f

None contradicted the f ...[text shortened]... at Trump resisted doing anything to stop the violence or summon additional reinforcements for hours.
You said Trump was warned that he should say something to prevent the protest from getting out of control. He did that. You need to establish a timeline to prove it. CNN is known to lie, so I cannot accept CNN as a credible source. AP has gotten things wrong as well.

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@no1marauder said
Read the article you cited, moron.
The article I cited is not about Christie, moron!

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@metal-brain said
You said Trump was warned that he should say something to prevent the protest from getting out of control. He did that. You need to establish a timeline to prove it. CNN is known to lie, so I cannot accept CNN as a credible source. AP has gotten things wrong as well.
No, he was told by numerous political allies (including his own son and several Fox News personalities) he should tell the rioters to leave the Capitol.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/02/politics/read-mark-meadows-texts-january-6-capitol-riot/index.html

He refused to for hours even while he was watching the violence on TV.

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@metal-brain said
The article I cited is not about Christie, moron!
Actually the article you cited says you're wrong about Christie:

"This year, the Massachusetts GOP has submitted Trump along with former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson and businessperson Ryan Binkley."

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/20/williamson-ballot-access-massachusetts-00132727

He usually don't even read articles you cite, do you?

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@no1marauder said
No, he was told by numerous political allies (including his own son and several Fox News personalities) he should tell the rioters to leave the Capitol.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/02/politics/read-mark-meadows-texts-january-6-capitol-riot/index.html

He refused to for hours even while he was watching the violence on TV.
Meadows was told those things, not Trump. You are assuming again. First you are assuming he told Trump. Second you are assuming he told Trump right away. You have no evidence of that.

STOP ASSUMING!

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