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@no1marauder saidIt was Maine. I thought it was Mass
Actually the article you cited says you're wrong about Christie:
"This year, the Massachusetts GOP has submitted Trump along with former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson and businessperson Ryan Binkley."
https://www.politico.com/ ...[text shortened]... iamson-ballot-access-massachusetts-00132727
He usually don't even read articles you cite, do you?
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4339036-christie-hutchinson-absent-from-maine-primary-ballot/
Why shouldn't Williamson be on the primary ballot in Mass? It is stupid to only have Biden and no one else on the primary ballot in Mass. Is that your idea of democracy?
@metal-brain saidThere's zero logical reason to assume, like you are doing, that Meadows, who was Trump's chief of staff and present with him, would have withheld such information from him.
Meadows was told those things, not Trump. You are assuming again. First you are assuming he told Trump. Second you are assuming he told Trump right away. You have no evidence of that.
STOP ASSUMING!
And really what other President in our history would have hesitated to make a public statement commanding rioters to leave the Capitol? Why was that sooooooooooooo hard for Trump to do that he waited for hours?
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@metal-brain saidThis has already been explained to you; the only thing that happened is that the Democratic Party didn't submit her name to be on the ballot as is standard practice when there is an incumbent President and an opponent (you had no problem with this in 2020). She still has two other routes to be on the ballot and probably will be.
It was Maine. I thought it was Mass
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4339036-christie-hutchinson-absent-from-maine-primary-ballot/
Why shouldn't Williamson be on the primary ballot in Mass? It is stupid to only have Biden and no one else on the primary ballot in Mass. Is that your idea of democracy?
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@no1marauder saidI never claimed he withheld anything. You are assuming again!
There's zero logical reason to assume, like you are doing, that Meadows, who was Trump's chief of staff and present with him, would have withheld such information from him.
And really what other President in our history would have hesitated to make a public statement commanding rioters to leave the Capitol? Why was that sooooooooooooo hard for Trump to do that he waited for hours?
Maybe he was just waiting for his turn to talk to Trump.
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@no1marauder said" Democratic Party didn't submit her name to be on the ballot as is standard practice when there is an incumbent President"
This has already been explained to you; the only thing that happened is that the Democratic Party didn't submit her name to be on the ballot as is standard practice when there is an incumbent President and an opponent (you had no problem with this in 2020). She still has two other routes to be on the ballot and probably will be.
Standard practice where? What is your source of information?
Even if true you approve of that BS? Would you oppose a law that required at least 2 people on the primary ballot unless nobody else is running?
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@no1marauder
"2:53 p.m.: Donald Trump Jr. to Mark Meadows
He’s got to condemn this s***. Asap. The capitol police tweet is not enough."
Why would Trump say that to Meadows? He wouldn't. And the timeline doesn't add up to the other link you posted with Trump's tweets. If it did 7:38 PM would be before 2:53 PM and it is not. The timestamps from the texts from both links you relied on contradict each other.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/02/politics/read-mark-meadows-texts-january-6-capitol-riot/index.html
Perhaps you should stop using CNN as a source for anything. They lie too much.
@metal-brain saidGod you're an idiot.
@no1marauder
"2:53 p.m.: Donald Trump Jr. to Mark Meadows
He’s got to condemn this s***. Asap. The capitol police tweet is not enough."
Why would Trump say that to Meadows? He wouldn't. And the timeline doesn't add up to the other link you posted with Trump's tweets. If it did 7:38 PM would be before 2:53 PM and it is not. The timestamps from the texts from both link ...[text shortened]... ol-riot/index.html
Perhaps you should stop using CNN as a source for anything. They lie too much.
Donald Trump Jr., the person who wrote the tweet, is the son of ex-president Trump.
No the timelinks don't contradict each other; you're just too lazy or stupid to read the bottom of the one article that explains that time stamps used which have a five hour difference and uses military type time. Thus 19:38 is 14:38 or 2:38 PM Washington DC time:
"APP NOTE: The timestamps on these tweets are in UTC (also known as GMT). To adjust to ET you need to subtract 5 hours from the posted time. So the 19:38:58 tweet was made at 14:38:58 ( or 2:39pm) Eastern Time."
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/tweets-january-6-2021
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@no1marauder saidIt is confusing for obvious reasons.
God you're an idiot.
Donald Trump Jr., the person who wrote the tweet, is the son of ex-president Trump.
No the timelinks don't contradict each other; you're just too lazy or stupid to read the bottom of the one article that explains that time stamps used which have a five hour difference and uses military type time. Thus 19:38 is 14:38 or 2:38 PM Washington DC tim ...[text shortened]... 38:58 ( or 2:39pm) Eastern Time."
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/tweets-january-6-2021
You still have not answered my question. Do you support Mass. keeping all democrat candidates off the primary ballot but Biden?
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@metal-brain saidMassachusetts hasn't (yet) and probably won't.
It is confusing for obvious reasons.
You still have not answered my question. Do you support Mass. keeping all democrat candidates off the primary ballot but Biden?
Williamson should have gathered petitions like Phillips did, but the Massachusetts Secretary of State should put her on the ballot if she doesn't. She's "nationally known" enough.
How come you weren't complaining about the Republican Party doing the exact same thing in 2020 to an ex-Massachusetts governor running against Trump?
@metal-brain saidFrom your article, nitwit:
" Democratic Party didn't submit her name to be on the ballot as is standard practice when there is an incumbent President"
Standard practice where? What is your source of information?
Even if true you approve of that BS? Would you oppose a law that required at least 2 people on the primary ballot unless nobody else is running?
""Submitting only the incumbent’s name for the presidential primary is not unusual in Massachusetts. "
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@no1marauder said"How come you weren't complaining about the Republican Party doing the exact same thing in 2020 to an ex-Massachusetts governor running against Trump?"
Massachusetts hasn't (yet) and probably won't.
Williamson should have gathered petitions like Phillips did, but the Massachusetts Secretary of State should put her on the ballot if she doesn't. She's "nationally known" enough.
How come you weren't complaining about the Republican Party doing the exact same thing in 2020 to an ex-Massachusetts governor running against Trump?
Because I had never heard about it before you brought it up. Why should Williamson have to gather petitions? She is in second place. Are you trying to justify Biden being the only democrat on the primary ballot?
Are you opposed to a law requiring at least two people on the primary ballot? Yes or no?
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@no1marauder saidNobody asked you if it was unusual in Mass. You were asked if you support it or not. Do you? Is that your ideal democracy? Yes or no? Answer the question!
From your article, nitwit:
""Submitting only the incumbent’s name for the presidential primary is not unusual in Massachusetts. "
@metal-brain saidDo you even read your own posts? You asked me for my "source of information" that it was "standard practice" for the major political parties to not submit the names of opponents of incumbent Presidents. So I did - from the very article you first brought the subject up in!
Nobody asked you if it was unusual in Mass. You were asked if you support it or not. Do you? Is that your ideal democracy? Yes or no? Answer the question!
States have different rules and regulations regarding access to primary ballots; letting anyone and everyone on one who evinces a desire to be on one is unworkable. It does not appear the Massachusetts rules are particularly onerous; the number of petitions is small for a State that size. Personally, I think political parties should have a wide latitude in deciding how they select their candidates assuming they are legally qualified for the positions. "Democracy" is still maintained by the general election.
Williamson entered the Democratic Party race knowing what the rules were. It's a bit late to start complaining about them now.