28 Aug 23
@no1marauder saidUnless I am mistaken, neither of these appear to show that diversity training improves diversity.
The evidence says "yes":
"Businesses must provide diversity training in the workplace. It’s essential to hire and retain the best talent, maximize their markets, and avoid nasty such as bad publicity and costly lawsuits. For example, companies that train on ethnic diversity show 35% better than national average financial returns, according to a study by McKinsey on 366 ...[text shortened]... rbes.com/sites/theyec/2022/10/11/the-importance-of-diversity-and-inclusion-training/?sh=62c39d97cff0
@phranny saidIt seems like many organizations that have been at the forefront of trying to improve diversity (Columbia University for example) have spent millions of dollars each year for decades with almost no improvement among their faculty.
There is little evidence that diversity training changes the hearts and minds of employees. You cannot legislate racism away. However, you can establish and enforce laws that prevent the use of race, gender identity, ethnicity, religion, etc. from limiting t access to education, jobs, property, etc.
In states with GOP dominated legislatures, public colleges and universities ...[text shortened]... ure and history. The idea of diversity is considered anti American and "woke" by some conservatives.
I'm completely in favor of improving diversity but maybe we should focus resources on solutions that work. It is a $3.4 billion industry that doesn't work.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/17/opinion/dei-trainings-effective.html
28 Aug 23
@rajk999 saidToo simple for the lib mind. Myself, I never think about the government day today. The liberals on this forum on the other hand think about the government probably once every couple hours. I simply cannot imagine..
Would your definition of diversity include encouraging homosexuality, transexuals and other perversions? What about diversity in family structures? In the last 30 yrs or so there has been a dramatic rise in single parent families. Would kids growing up without a father in the home be a good form of diversity?
I will answer. The answer is 'NO'. None of those things lead to strength in nature and in human society. They rather will lead to the demise of the species.
28 Aug 23
@rajk999 saidDam, rajk. Keep it up, but again, this type of thought process does not compute with them
Your very first couple sentences tells me you are a madman and cannot properly respond
You said I disagree with you. The rise in single parent families, especially among certain minority groups, is not due to a lack of religious faith.
Who the hell mentioned 'religious faith'
Next the perverts are trying to change the kids, and indoctrinate people into their lif ...[text shortened]... ing back. They are child molesters.
No.. we are not leaving them alone. We are coming after them.
28 Aug 23
@sonhouse saidNo mention of their ‘somewhat varied’ culture? But you write of race and skin color. Nothing about culture. You were there, you say. Tell us the cultural implications.
@Earl-of-Trumps
Right, I miss those days when my friends could not be in Escondido past 5 pm even though my dad and I worked with them where they just happened to be black.
I guess it is my pure racism that had me getting guitar lessons from Rev Gary Davis at when I was 18 or having dinner at Libba Cotton's house in DC when I was heavily into acoustic country blues. Yep, H ...[text shortened]... or Arthur Crudup or Mississippi John Hurt or Joseph Spence from Andros, where I worked for 2 years.
28 Aug 23
@phranny saidI don’t fear a monoculture I am not trilled seeing a mono government with one party rule accepting only approved thoughts, opinions, and beliefs.
In nature, a lack of diversity leads to specie decline. The same can be said for human social systems. Diversity brings strength in nature and in human society. Evolution brings forth diversity. Conservatives should fear a monoculture, not diversity.
28 Aug 23
@phranny said@phranny said - That is for business to decide, not government.
That is for business to decide, not government. The GOP is promoting intrusive controls over private business and individual citizens.
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EoT: Whoa! What a very Libertarian-friendly thing to say, Phranny. I'm proud of you. 🙂
@phranny said - The GOP is promoting intrusive controls over private business and individual citizens.
EoT: Definitely stay away from those "control" people. I say, Phranny, I think you may be ready to try the Libertarian Party.
and welcone in
28 Aug 23
@Phranny said - The rise in single parent families, especially among certain minority groups, is not due to a lack of religious faith.
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EoT: you should pay close attention to the fatherless, and stop thinking of many family structures as a good thing.
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According to various sources, a high percentage of youths in prison come from fatherless homes. For example, 85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes, which is 20 times the average1. 7 out of every 10 youth that are housed in state-operated correctional facilities, including detention and residential treatment, come from a fatherless home2. 90% of the young men in prison in the United States grew up without a father3.
Read this to get WOKEN: https://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress.com/statistics/
@Phranny said - Also, there are many different types of family structures.
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EoT: You say that like it's a good thing, Phranny.
@Rajk999 said - There is an organisation [now dormant] called NAMBLA. North American Man-Boy Love Association. They were very active in the 90s and has since been disbanded but in the light of this new round of perverts getting their way they are coming back. They are child molesters.
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yup. Do you know the story as to why NAMBLA was shut down?
The long-and-short of it:
two gay men, self described as gay lovers, kidnapped a young male (12??) and they killed him and had sex with his corpse.
They said that before they went to snatch the kid, they went to NAMBLA web site for courage. Goodbye NAMBLA!!
I know the situation because this happened in Boston, where I am. And that really made me angry
@boonon saidOf course not, the government should never pass into law, an order to business to implement diversity training.
I don't believe that the government should be in the business of training us about diversity, what do you actually mean by that? We are all created equal. If people hate someone for being different than that shows ignorance. There is hatred and ignorance in a lot of people. What will a course do to change that? We need a change of the human heart. Young children grouped togeth ...[text shortened]... play do not show hate for each other's differences....until they are taught to hate the differences.
1. It is not government's job to do this.
2. It is highly insultive to put people through this training because it *assumes* that the individuals *need* it.
Let's face facts,, the diversity training changes no one, it just gives democrats a sense of righteousness to bully people.
28 Aug 23
@no1marauder said@no1marauder said Clearly, what’s important to the workforce also translates to the bottom line!
The evidence says "yes":
"Businesses must provide diversity training in the workplace. It’s essential to hire and retain the best talent, maximize their markets, and avoid nasty such as bad publicity and costly lawsuits. For example, companies that train on ethnic diversity show 35% better than national average financial returns, according to a study by McKinsey on 366 ...[text shortened]... rbes.com/sites/theyec/2022/10/11/the-importance-of-diversity-and-inclusion-training/?sh=62c39d97cff0
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Wow. And all we have to do is give up our freedom and *submit*?? Such a deal!!
29 Aug 23
@earl-of-trumps said"Draconian"? The same party you attack for being "woke"?
And that's exactly what the democrats want, a monopoly on power and therefor, no defense to their draconian ways.
So Dems are pro-gay rights, pro-trans, pro-choice, pro-minority, pro-immigration...and "draconian"?
Right-wingers can't keep their B.S. straight.
29 Aug 23
@earl-of-trumps saidGood post. Men impregnating women, and abandoning them is the crux of the problem among black communities all over the world. The US has the highest rate of fatherless families in the world, and apparently some people think thats a good thing.
@Phranny said - The rise in single parent families, especially among certain minority groups, is not due to a lack of religious faith.
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EoT: you should pay close attention to the fatherless, and stop thinking of many family structures as a good thing.
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According to various sources, a high percentage of youths in prison c ...[text shortened]... structures.[/b]
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EoT: You say that like it's a good thing, Phranny.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/12/12/u-s-children-more-likely-than-children-in-other-countries-to-live-with-just-one-parent/#:~:text=A%20new%20Pew%20Research%20Center,living%20in%20single%2Dparent%20households.
@earl-of-trumps saidYeah .. followed that story back in the 90s. According to some reports NAMBLA is just underground, waiting to emerge. They are seeking to reduce the age of consent to 14 and with this round of Woke and LGBQT nonsense going around they might get enough support for it.
@Rajk999 said - There is an organisation [now dormant] called NAMBLA. North American Man-Boy Love Association. They were very active in the 90s and has since been disbanded but in the light of this new round of perverts getting their way they are coming back. They are child molesters.
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yup. Do you know the story as to why ...[text shortened]... A!!
I know the situation because this happened in Boston, where I am. And that really made me angry