Dicky poo Durbin seems to think that :
1 - The US is as evil as Hitler.
2 - The US is as evil as Stalin.
3 - The US is as evil as Pol Pot.
4 - That he is just a poor misunderstood politician being picked on by righties.
5 - The US needs to tell the terrorists in Iraq when they can count on the US to abandon the fledgling government of Iraq.
6 - Captured terrorists are people.
7 - Captured terrorists are not only people, they are better than POW's in any other war.
8 - What the world thinks of the US matters to us.
Are any of these points logical? Believable? Important?
I personally see his and all pseudo lib attacks as just another effort to defeat our nation by taking the part of the greater evil in all cases.
The good news is, that having watched this exact same process give victory to Communism in the US defeat in Vietnam, we should be better educated that (the process) is all about political bs and nothing to do with anything but greedy politicians wanting power and money.
Enemy reconition. When the next election rolls around and the Dems lose another four percent of the vote... they are going to again wring their hands and wonder where they went wrong. It's that "values" thing. Ain't it.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyjust out of curiosity, what if this durbin dude had been a republican.
Dicky poo Durbin seems to think that :
1 - The US is as evil as Hitler.
2 - The US is as evil as Stalin.
3 - The US is as evil as Pol Pot.
4 - That he is just a poor misunderstood politician being picked on by righties.
5 - The US needs to tell the terrorists in Iraq when they can count on the US to abandon the fledgling government of Iraq.
6 - ...[text shortened]... gain wring their hands and wonder where they went wrong. It's that "values" thing. Ain't it.
would you have posted this tirade against him?
Couldn't you be reading a bit too much into what he said?
Is it ok to treat prisoners the way we know they were treated there?
If it had been american prisoners treated like that and then the
photos shown wouldn't you be a bit indignant the way they were
treated? I think he was simply saying we should abide by the geneva
convention about the treatment of prisoners of war. Hey, if I was
interviewing these creeps, I would do everything I could to get info
out of them, I think the main thing we did wrong was to let those
kids make it into a circus and take those rediculous pictures that
got released. Our greatest ire at the beheadings I think came from
the images not the deed itself. I just think the prisoners were handled
by amateurs. They would have spilled their guts if they hadn't been
handed over to teenage boobs.
Originally posted by sonhouseWhat tirade? I didn't say half of what Dicky did.
just out of curiosity, what if this durbin dude had been a republican.
would you have posted this tirade against him?
Couldn't you be reading a bit too much into what he said?
Is it ok to treat prisoners the way we know they were treated there?
If it had been american prisoners treated like that and then the
photos shown wouldn't you be a bit indign ...[text shortened]... amateurs. They would have spilled their guts if they hadn't been
handed over to teenage boobs.
And yes. If anyone goes to war against America, I'll go to war against him in an instant.
Because? I believe that 40,000,000 people trying to gain access to the US at any one moment legally... and 2 billion who would if they could escape their captor govenments -- and 7,000,000 per year willing to enter illegally at risk of life itself are correct. The US is the best and most free place on earth to live. That is why I fight people who try to destroy it. I am a patriot. Tried and true and proud.
A minor point. A republican never would try to destroy the country by siding with the enemy. They do stupid things like trample the constitution internally. But they don't join the enemy in time of war. That is reserved to Democrats, greens and other commie left-overs.
You are kidding. I hope. About "reading too much" into what he said?
The nit-wit actually equated our imprisonment of terrorists to the acts of "hitlers storm troopers and Stalins gulags and even to Pol Pot". Do you know how insulting this is to the millions actually killed by the three he compared to?
Body count might help you. But you have to be intellectually honest enough to do the numbers. Study what he compared.
I'm just going to give you one bit of data. "Body Count At Guantanamo = Zero. Zilch. Nada"
Here is your part. "Body count at Holocost, Stalin and Pol Pot = "
Fill in the blank dude. Then ask me again if I am "reading a bit more into it"?
I am a lot of things. Too stupid to recognize an enemy of freedom isn't one of them. If you are too stupid to see it, then that's your problem.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyDo you really think this dude is actually speaking his own mind?
What tirade? I didn't say half of what Dicky did.
And yes. If anyone goes to war against America, I'll go to war against him in an instant.
Because? I believe that 40,000,000 people trying to gain access to the US at any one moment legally... and 2 billion who would if they could escape their captor govenments -- and 7,000,000 per year willing t ...[text shortened]... y of freedom isn't one of them. If you are too stupid to see it, then that's your problem.
I think he's trying to get points with his constituants so he can
get elected. I'm not defending him, I just don't beleive ANYTHING
a politician says at face value, there is always something else going
on in the background. Of course there is no comparison betweeen the
true evil ones and what went on at Guantanamo and he knows it.
He is trying to rile someone up, maybe get his own enemies to put
his foot in his own mouth even further. Its like some twisted chess
game. Thats politics for you.
BTW, how can you as an avowed atheist support the rebublican
right wing frothing at the mouth bible belt schizoid agenda?
They make me sick, not that dems are that much better but they
dont hold up the bible as if it were some ultimate judgement and
THE only way of life, like it wasn't even written by Jesus. It was
perverted by Paul later who had to have a miracle laden religion
to sell the romans if he was to develop a power base. Worked like
a charm. Gag.
Originally posted by sonhouseDon, dude...
Do you really think this dude is actually speaking his own mind?
I think he's trying to get points with his constituants so he can
get elected. I'm not defending him, I just don't beleive ANYTHING
a politician says at face value, there is always something else going
on in the background. Of course there is no comparison betweeen the
true evil ones a ...[text shortened]... s foot in his own mouth even further. Its like some twisted chess
game. Thats politics for you.
That is the whole point. The entire Democratic party is actively seeking the defeat of the US in the war(s) FOR POLITICAL GAIN. That is why they are good enemies. Not too bright and very weak. And morally corrupt. That is MY definition of "The Perfect Enemy".
Would you sell out your country just to get elected? Most Dems will. In a minute. But the nation has pretty sharp voters. We in the know call it the "Daschlling Process", and it is just starting to catch on. Wait till the next election. It will be so cool!
Also BTW in case you think I am atheistic, I am neither religious or
atheistic. If there is a god its doing a piss poor job of it, letting
humans destroy what once was a decent planet. what god in its right
mind would let that happen? So either there is no god or it just
doesn't give a crap. Either way I am not going out of my way to make
a big deal out of it.
Originally posted by sonhouseOh. I just didn't realize the planet was in such bad shape. The water and air being twice as good now as a hundred years ago and all. I thought maybe that was good.
Also BTW in case you think I am atheistic, I am neither religious or
atheistic. If there is a god its doing a piss poor job of it, letting
humans destroy what once was a decent planet. what god in its right
mind would let that happen? So either there is no god or it just
doesn't give a crap. Either way I am not going out of my way to make
a big deal out of it.
Poor planet. Nearly dead is it? Us bad monkey/chimps did it? Well. I say that it created us so it will just have to live with us.
Bad monkeys! We should really just shoot ourselves. Ready? I'll count. On three shoot yourself. I will too. --- errrr.... really. Trust me. Ready? One -- two -- Three! Bang!
<svw's ghoste> Hello. Did that help? Is the world saved? I hope so. Oh... and don't forget to bury me body where the skunks won't get sick on the left-overs from the worms. I would hate to hurt the poor dears!
Originally posted by sonhouseRepublicans don't feel the way Durbin feels about our military, and as a result, no Republican would have ever come close to saying these kinds of things. If they did, they wouldn't BE Republicans... it is the Democratic Party that has shown nothing but disdain for the U.S. Military.
just out of curiosity, what if this durbin dude had been a republican.
would you have posted this tirade against him?... I think he was simply saying we should abide by the geneva convention about the treatment of prisoners of war. ....
The Democratic Party is actually rooting for the US to lose the war on terror, because it will mean that Bush lost the war on terror.
If the U.S. WERE to abide by the geneva convention, we would be the ONLY ones who do...doesn't seem to me that the beheading of innocent civilians is allowed in the geneva convention (maybe I read it incorrectly), but guess what? that's what the enemy does!
Originally posted by StarValleyWyno, no, no, no, no, no, no and no.
Dicky poo Durbin seems to think that :
1 - The US is as evil as Hitler.
2 - The US is as evil as Stalin.
3 - The US is as evil as Pol Pot.
4 - That he is just a poor misunderstood politician being picked on by righties.
5 - The US needs to tell the terrorists in Iraq when they can count on the US to abandon the fledgling government of Iraq.
6 - ...[text shortened]... er war.
8 - What the world thinks of the US matters to us.
Are any of these points logical?
Originally posted by sonhouseEr, have you checked the Alps lately? or Antarctica? the glaciers
are disapearing faster than a hip hop cd loses its customers.
Yea. Ain't it grand? That the earth/sun relationship keeps on doing what it has done for three billion years? Warm - cool - freeze - thaw - roast - normalize? Then do it again? Over and over and over and over?
Like the Manatees getting chopped up by
the propellers, Oh SO sorry about that, oh well they were pretty poor
elephants anyway. Jesus, open your eyes to the destruction going
on all around you.
Manatees and propellers? Yea, now there is a real sad story. I guess.
A good propeller costs a couple hundred bucks.
Not a thing I can do about it or you or anyone
else while businesses control the government. I hope you aren't under
the delusion business has nothing to do with government, that they
are such nice people they go out of their way to avoid ecological
disaster? They are businessmen for gods sake, christians too, doesn't
that give you a warm and fuzzy feeling they are taking SUCH good
care of our planet
As to the business controling government rant... good on you. Not smart enough to refute the demons of communism eh? I am. But if you want to believe that the most powerful force for good on the planet (capitalism) is evil, that's your mindwiped problem.
As to "businessmen" OR ANYONE ELSE taking care of the planet I have a rather strange attitude. This damn mud ball created life and man and everything; that what we are IS NATURE in its most pure, raw form. I don't think we are smart enough to even take care of ourselves, never mind the "Planet". It created this mess. Let it figure it out. I don't really care.
I like "christians" a hell of a lot better than pseudo libs who spout stupid ideas about anti-matter and anti-christs and whatever.
Do bbarr and all you other pseudo libs think that we can forgive your heros?
http://www.woai.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=8BF9C9B5-1770-4D0E-9185-B27218F6887F
http://conservativeeyes.blogspot.com/2005/06/durbin-apologizes-for-nazi-remark.html
Why should we? What don't you understand about honor and goodness and right vs. evil?
Are we just "sentimental turds" who fail to see the enemy? I think "not". We do see you. As enemies.
<edit> Sorry to all you brain dead RHP'ers. But it is time to view a site with ten times the viewers of RHP.
http://sayanythingblog.com/2005/06/19/durbin-sort-of-apologizes
http://www.theshapeofdays.com/2005/06/hutchison_other.html