@metal-brain saidNope, Christopher Steele was an employee of a US company.
Christopher Steele is a foreigner who was interfering in our elections with the help of Fusion GPS via the DNC, you know... US citizens assisting him in doing so.
This has been explained to you several times before.
14 Feb 22
@no1marauder saidSo was Natalia Veselnitskaya, she was working for Fusion GPS.
Nope, Christopher Steele was an employee of a US company.
This has been explained to you several times before.
Steele is a British former intelligence officer with the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) from 1987 until his retirement in 2009. He ran the Russia desk at MI6 headquarters in London between 2006 and 2009. In 2009, he co-founded Orbis Business Intelligence, a London-based private intelligence firm.
Is Christopher Steele a foreigner? Yes or no?
14 Feb 22
@metal-brain saidNo, she wasn't.
So was Natalia Veselnitskaya, she was working for Fusion GPS.
Steele is a British former intelligence officer with the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) from 1987 until his retirement in 2009. He ran the Russia desk at MI6 headquarters in London between 2006 and 2009. In 2009, he co-founded Orbis Business Intelligence, a London-based private intelligence firm.
Is Christopher Steele a foreigner? Yes or no?
Steele was a foreigner employed by a US company.
@no1marauder saidNatalia Veselnitskaya was in New York to defend Prevezon, a Russian holding firm accused of laundering money for corrupt Russian businessmen. Veselnitskaya had been working on the case for years with assistance from Fusion GPS. She has ties to Fusion GPS contrary to what you claimed.
No, she wasn't.
Steele was a foreigner employed by a US company.
Steele was a foreigner employed by a US company that was doing opposition research (digging up dirt as democrats used to call it) on Trump. That US company was Fusion GPS which had ties to the DNC while it was controlled by HRC.
Let's get to the heart of this cognitive dissonance of yours. Either opposition research is election meddling or it is not. Which is it?
14 Feb 22
@wildgrass saidWas anything about the Trump tower meeting illegal? It was just opposition research, so no big deal. Right?
@Metal-Brain
Was anything about any of this illegal?
14 Feb 22
@metal-brain saidNope not saying that. Just wondering what was not legally allowed? It seems like that information could be found somewhere.
Was anything about the Trump tower meeting illegal? It was just opposition research, so no big deal. Right?
14 Feb 22
@wildgrass saidno1 said this:
Nope not saying that. Just wondering what was not legally allowed? It seems like that information could be found somewhere.
"I'm saying it was improper for her to do so but not illegal.
Foreigners interfering in our elections is illegal as is US citizens assisting them in doing so."
Steele is a foreigner. Not just any foreigner though. Steele is a British former intelligence officer with the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) from 1987 until his retirement in 2009.
My point is that opposition research is not illegal, even if a foreign actor is involved. If it is as no1 falsely claimed, why isn't Chris Steele in prison? He is even a foreign Secret Intelligence Service worker. That is far worse than Natalia Veselnitskaya's ties to a foreign government.
Either foreigners interfering in our elections is illegal or it isn't. If opposition research is election interference Steele should be in prison. If it isn't the Trump tower meeting is about nothing.
Which is it?
14 Feb 22
"But in response to another written question, she said she met with Simpson on an “as-needed basis,” but “I cannot name specific dates because I do not keep a log of my meetings…”
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/fusion-gps-glenn-simpson-dined-russian-lawyer-after-her-meeting-trump-tower
She cannot remember when she colluded with him. That is what got George Papadopoulos a perjury conviction. He couldn't remember when he met a Russian.
Fusion GPS colluded with a Russian. George Papadopoulos just heard a false rumor. He had no reason to lie about a rumor we now know was false. There is nothing illegal about meeting Russians. He had nothing to hide.
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14 Feb 22
@no1marauder said"Durham's filings show that there was an attempt to uncover evidence, not to fabricate, it (although he tries to minimize the evidence):"
ZeroHedge's claim that there was an attempt to "fabricate allegations of Russian collusion" isn't a "fact".
Durham's filings show that there was an attempt to uncover evidence, not to fabricate, it (although he tries to minimize the evidence):
"The Government’s evidence at trial will establish that these additional allegations relied, in part, on the purported DNS t ...[text shortened]... document/558443477/US-v-Sussmann-GOVERNMENT-S-MOTION-TO-INQUIRE-INTO-POTENTIAL-CONFLICTS-OF-INTEREST
that is wrong
"Durham said Joffe tasked those researchers to mine internet data to establish “an inference” and “narrative” tying then-candidate Trump to Russia. Durham said Joffe indicated he was doing this to please certain “VIPs” at Perkins Coie and on the Clinton campaign."
15 Feb 22
@metal-brain saidGetting "opposition research" from a foreign government would be illegal.
no1 said this:
"I'm saying it was improper for her to do so but not illegal.
Foreigners interfering in our elections is illegal as is US citizens assisting them in doing so."
Steele is a foreigner. Not just any foreigner though. Steele is a British former intelligence officer with the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) from 1987 until his retirement in 2009.
M ...[text shortened]... e Steele should be in prison. If it isn't the Trump tower meeting is about nothing.
Which is it?
Getting "opposition research" from a US company that happens to employ foreigners wouldn't be.
15 Feb 22
@metal-brain saidJesus Christ, what Papadopoulos heard has been established to have been true and it doesn't matter how many times you lie and call it a "false rumor".
"But in response to another written question, she said she met with Simpson on an “as-needed basis,” but “I cannot name specific dates because I do not keep a log of my meetings…”
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/fusion-gps-glenn-simpson-dined-russian-lawyer-after-her-meeting-trump-tower
She cannot remember when she colluded with him. That is what go ...[text shortened]... umor we now know was false. There is nothing illegal about meeting Russians. He had nothing to hide.
Numerous Trump campaign officials and associates lied about their contacts with Russians (including Papadopoulos). Some were convicted of doing so, some were given pardons by Trump for doing so.
15 Feb 22
@mott-the-hoople saidEstablishing an "inference" and/or "narrative" is different from fabricating one. "Establish" in this case means " to put beyond doubt : PROVE". https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/establish
"Durham's filings show that there was an attempt to uncover evidence, not to fabricate, it (although he tries to minimize the evidence):"
that is wrong
"Durham said Joffe tasked those researchers to mine internet data to establish “an inference” and “narrative” tying then-candidate Trump to Russia. Durham said Joffe indicated he was doing this to please certain “VIPs” at Perkins Coie and on the Clinton campaign."
That is consistent with what Durham claims he did i.e. amass evidence supposedly showing a link between Trump Tower IP addresses and Russian ones. Whether one finds that evidence particularly strong is beside the point; unlike the situation in the summer of 2016, we now have ample knowledge of pervasive contacts between Trump campaign officials and advisers and Russians, as well as proof of Russian government interference in the election that aimed to help Trump.
15 Feb 22
@no1marauder saidThere is no evidence Trump got "opposition research" from a foreign government. There never was. Natalia Veselnitskaya is not a foreign government. Russian collusion is a farce. It was a politicized conspiracy theory. No evidence.
Getting "opposition research" from a foreign government would be illegal.
Getting "opposition research" from a US company that happens to employ foreigners wouldn't be.
15 Feb 22
@no1marauder saidYou are lying again.
Jesus Christ, what Papadopoulos heard has been established to have been true and it doesn't matter how many times you lie and call it a "false rumor".
Numerous Trump campaign officials and associates lied about their contacts with Russians (including Papadopoulos). Some were convicted of doing so, some were given pardons by Trump for doing so.
I have called you out on this BS of yours many times before and you never proved it. What is your source of information? I'm calling your bluff again. I have had enough of your lies.
You always accuse others of lying when you lie. You are very predictable in that way. You do it every time.