far left tyranny

@mghrn55 said
Exactly what will you do with your freedom ??

whatever I want within the laws..what do you think freedom means?

@mott-the-hoople said
whatever I want within the laws..what do you think freedom means?

So if the laws change you'll still have your freedom.
Nothing for you to worry about.

@wolfgang59 said
So if the laws change you'll still have your freedom.
Nothing for you to worry about.

thats the reason I support Trump. got to get some laws changed

@mott-the-hoople said
thats the reason I support Trump. got to get some laws changed

Which and why?
Your definition of freedom stands regardless of what laws are made doesn't it?

@wolfgang59 said
Which and why?
Your definition of freedom stands regardless of what laws are made doesn't it?

yes...The US is a nation of laws.

@mott-the-hoople said
thats the reason I support Trump. got to get some laws changed

Which and why?

@wolfgang59 said
Which and why?

the laws I dont like...because I dont like them.

@mott-the-hoople said
whatever I want within the laws..what do you think freedom means?

Will you push for laws that restrict freedom for some members of society ?

It's nice to say you will exercise your freedom within the laws while some laws restrict freedom for some.

@mott-the-hoople said
the laws I dont like...because I dont like them.

Are you still talking about freedom ?

@mott-the-hoople said
the laws I dont like...because I dont like them.

edifying ...

@indonesia-phil said
This is true, most Americans wouldn't know a hard left policy if it jumped up and bit them. In my line of work I've met and befriended many Americans, and I haven't met a bad one yet, but their political perceptions are way off beam from a European perspective.

You should have said:
Most Americans wouldn’t know a far-left policy if it nationalized banks and unionized prostitution...

@mott-the-hoople said
the laws I dont like...because I dont like them.

So nothing to do with freedom as a universal concept then, just a personal construct of freedom based on your preferences which would include the right to restrict the freedom of others.

@kevcvs57 said
So nothing to do with freedom as a universal concept then, just a personal construct of freedom based on your preferences which would include the right to restrict the freedom of others.

Intersesting points being raised here by you, Mott, and others. My spin:

*Everyone* has freedom - except for criminals. They lose a lot of theirs in prison.

Now, I do make exceptions and draconian laws that a congress can pass, but that
is the same for everyone in most cases.

@earl-of-trumps said
Intersesting points being raised here by you, Mott, and others. My spin:

*Everyone* has freedom - except for criminals. They lose a lot of theirs in prison.

Now, I do make exceptions and draconian laws that a congress can pass, but that
is the same for everyone in most cases.

The point to be made here is that freedom is relative.
(Try robbing a bank to test out that statement).

Too many think of freedom in absolute terms.

@mghrn55 said
The point to be made here is that freedom is relative.
(Try robbing a bank to test out that statement).

Too many think of freedom in absolute terms.

My God, man, if I tired testing my statement by robbing a bank, my statement holds true.
Criminals lose their rights.

Remember me? I'm the Libertarian in here. "The right to your fist ends at the right of my chin"

There can be no such thing as absolute freedom for all in a just society, of course.