24 Apr 09
Originally posted by FMFWhat are you talking about with Cuba?...I never said anything about Cuba invading....🙄...to heck with GW's grand pappy...I'm no fan of "W" either...he sucked! Regardless what Pappy Bush, IBM, and the US gov't did, it doesn't amount to the 50+ million dead instigated by Chamberlain's crack-kissing of Hitler....
Mmmm. I see. So you think Cuba is going to overrun Europe and North Africa because of the slack Obama is giving it? Or am I being silly? Is Cuba in fact going to overrun North and Central America.
While Nevil Chamberlain's diplomacy was unable to cope with perhaps the most mendacious militarized tyrannies the modern world has ever seen, we now know - thanks t ...[text shortened]... o, and put right one of the most miserable failures of U.S. foreign policy in living memory.
24 Apr 09
Originally posted by dystoniacI said I saw Obama as lifting diplomacy to a better level and that as a result you may see democracy in Cuba within the next 8 years, something U.S. foreign policy has failed to do for 60 years. You retorted sarcastically that Nevil Chamberlain also raised the level of diplomacy to new heights. What is it you predict that Obama's overtures to Cuba might result in?
What are you talking about with Cuba?...I never said anything about Cuba invading....🙄...to heck with GW's grand pappy...I'm no fan of "W" either...he sucked! Regardless what Pappy Bush, IBM, and the US gov't did, it doesn't amount to the 50+ million dead instigated by Chamberlain's crack-kissing of Hitler....
Do you seriously think Neville Chamberlain could have prevented World War 2 by doing something other than what he did do in 1938? This little historical soundbite always makes me smile.
In fact I am going to start a thread about it.
25 Apr 09
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Originally posted by dystoniacDemonizing Bush and company is key. At least, it is what propelled him into the White House because he successfully joined McCain and the unpopular Bush at the hip. The only question is, can he do it again with whoever he faces in 4 years? No doubt, it will be a harder struggle to do so but the good part for Obama next election wiill be the montra, "look what I inherited, I did the best I could".
[b I don't know why he feels like he has to distance himself from Bush when that began the day he was sworn in. We need to forget the last 8 years, move forward and worry about the next 8 years. The U.S. needs to have good relations with everybody, but Obama doesn't have to "brown-nose" his way to that end.[/b]
25 Apr 09
Originally posted by whodeyThis reply of yours was to dystoniac's reply to my post about diplomatic relations and foreign policy.
Demonizing Bush and company is key.
Would restoring links with Cuba, easing the embargo, and seeing Cuba turn into a "market economy" be "demonizing Bush"?
25 Apr 09
Originally posted by ScriabinScriabin has a place in his heart and mouth for anything that looks like Obama. That is why he has this finger symbology for sleepy guy. He makes a little triangle with his fingers so they point at his mouth. It means sleepy guy pecker goes here.
not perfect, but not bad overall
don't agree with him on everything, of course
don't like his use of Clinton's goldman sachs alumi
but got to hand him what's due, he is one cool customer
25 Apr 09
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Originally posted by joe beyserI guess you thought that little joke was so funny you just had to post it again, in a different thread, for attention, like a child.
Scriabin has a place in his heart and mouth for anything that looks like Obama. That is why he has this finger symbology for sleepy guy. He makes a little triangle with his fingers so they point at his mouth. It means sleepy guy pecker goes here.
Look I'm sorry if Scriabin's continuous over the top insults hurt your widdle feelings. That's just the way he rolls. He's blasted me with the same kind of crap before too, and I imagine he will again. If I were you I'd just let that stuff roll off your back, or not, whatever, but I'd rather you just left me out of it if you don't mind.
29 Apr 09
Originally posted by FMF"cuban missle crisis "ring a bell?
Mmmm. I see. So you think Cuba is going to overrun Europe and North Africa because of the slack Obama is giving it? Or am I being silly? Is Cuba in fact going to overrun North and Central America.
While Nevil Chamberlain's diplomacy was unable to cope with perhaps the most mendacious militarized tyrannies the modern world has ever seen, we now know - thanks t ...[text shortened]... o, and put right one of the most miserable failures of U.S. foreign policy in living memory.
29 Apr 09
It is ridiculous to believe US has the power granted them in this thread. They are like a matron who, well past her prime, is no longer the dominant force she once was.
Since no country has initiated a Cuban boycott, save the US, it is claimed here, US has such massive power it has single-handedly destroyed Cuba’s economy.
Surely you can’t actually believe US has more power than all other countries combined??? It’s obvious that is quiet simply, not possible.
What if:
US alone, were to boycott Italy, would Italy’s economy collapse?
US alone, were to boycott India, would India’s economy collapse?
US alone, were to boycott Brazil, would Brazil’s economy collapse?
Would a boycott by the US alone destroy any countries economy?
The answer to each of those questions is a resounding: No.
The US is simply one of 190 countries, no more, no less. They do not have this enormous power being granted them here, although it can be convenient to do so to create a ‘straw man’ for some particular argument.
To explain Cuba’s plight, you must look elsewhere. Otherwise you are in fact claiming the US is omnificent. Which is absolute rubbish - in my opinion.
29 Apr 09
Originally posted by MacSwainwell said! Cuba is where its at because it has been ruled by a selfish dictator for decades and who aligned himself w/the u.s.s.r. not because of the united states
It is ridiculous to believe US has the power granted them in this thread. They are like a matron who, well past her prime, is no longer the dominant force she once was.
Since no country has initiated a Cuban boycott, save the US, it is claimed here, US has such massive power it has single-handedly destroyed Cuba’s economy.
Surely you can’t act ...[text shortened]... erwise you are in fact claiming the US is omnificent. Which is absolute rubbish - in my opinion.
29 Apr 09
Originally posted by utherpendragonFunny how all the pro-Castro fans forget that inconvenient little fact.
well said! Cuba is where its at because it has been ruled by a selfish dictator for decades and who aligned himself w/the u.s.s.r. not because of the united states