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https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/08/02/florida-leads-the-nation-in-kids-hospitalized-for-covid/

Florida leads the nation in kids hospitalized for COVID

The Sunshine State leads the nation in another alarming coronavirus statistic: Kids hospitalized with COVID-19.

Florida had 32 pediatric COVID-19 hospitalizations per day between July 24 and 30, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The Florida Department of Health reported 10,785 new COVID-19 infections among children under 12 between July 23 and 29. That’s an average of 1,540 new cases per day.

The surge is worse for children who are eligible for the vaccine — 11,048 new cases among those ages 12 to 19 in the same week.

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Just last month, this went into effect:

https://apnews.com/article/florida-coronavirus-laws-health-083b2c00304c9569a78040ca741aeba1

Florida governor signs law preempting local COVID edicts

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis moved to suspend all remaining COVID-19 restrictions imposed by communities across his state, signing into law on Monday freshly passed legislation giving him sweeping powers to invalidate local emergency measures put in place during the pandemic — including mask mandates, limitations on business operations and the shuttering of schools.

In addition to signing the law, which goes into effect July 1, the Republican governor also signed a pair of executive orders to move more quickly, meaning that existing coronavirus measures enacted by local governments — such as requiring masks — would be abolished immediately.

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Great! Now those kids hospitalized will have "natural immunity" forever according to Eldy (well if they don't die).

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@vivify said
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/08/02/florida-leads-the-nation-in-kids-hospitalized-for-covid/

Florida leads the nation in kids hospitalized for COVID

The Sunshine State leads the nation in another alarming coronavirus statistic: Kids hospitalized with COVID-19.

Florida had 32 pediatric COVID-19 hospitalizations per day between July 24 and 30, ...[text shortened]... are eligible for the vaccine — 11,048 new cases among those ages 12 to 19 in the same week.
I'm sure that has nothing to do with the facts that it's brutally hot and humid in Florida this time of year and everybody is using a/c, and that Florida has the third largest population of any state.

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@sh76 said
I'm sure that has nothing to do with the facts that it's brutally hot and humid in Florida this time of year and everybody is using a/c, and that Florida has the third largest population of any state.
Look at this COVID map:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

Now look at this election map of Florida for the 2020 race:

https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/florida/

Southern Florida has the most Democrats in the state: it also has far lower COVID rates. That's most likely because Democrats take COVID more seriously.

Also: why does California, the most populated state, have far less COVID rates according to the map, than the red states of Florida, Louisiana and Arkansas....despite having heat waves in the triple-digits:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/weather/2021/06/16/heat-wave-arizona-california-western-us-bake-triple-digits/7721768002/

Rather than blaming heat and air-conditioning, it's far more likely that the Republican policy of blocking COVID restrictions is quite simply disastrous.

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@vivify said
Look at this COVID map:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

Now look at this election map of Florida for the 2020 race:

https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/florida/

Southern Florida has the most Democrats in the state: it also has far lower COVID rates. That's most likely because Democrats take COVID more seriously.

Also: ...[text shortened]... ar more likely that the Republican policy of blocking COVID restrictions is quite simply disastrous.
Florida has a lot of old people living there. Old people are more likely to be republican. Old people are likely to get vaccinated. That means a lot of old republicans got vaccinated in Florida, so your logic is backwards.

Also, Florida is not one of the states with the lowest vaccination rates.

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@vivify said
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/08/02/florida-leads-the-nation-in-kids-hospitalized-for-covid/

Florida leads the nation in kids hospitalized for COVID

The Sunshine State leads the nation in another alarming coronavirus statistic: Kids hospitalized with COVID-19.

Florida had 32 pediatric COVID-19 hospitalizations per day between July 24 and 30, ...[text shortened]... are eligible for the vaccine — 11,048 new cases among those ages 12 to 19 in the same week.
Why is The Florida Department of Health reporting all new COVID-19 infections of the unvaccinated? The CDC does not report all new COVID-19 infections of the vaccinated.

Only hospitalizations and deaths of the unvaccinated should be reported.That is how the vaccinated are counted by the CDC.

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@metal-brain said
Florida has a lot of old people living there. Old people are more likely to be republican. Old people are likely to get vaccinated. That means a lot of old republicans got vaccinated in Florida, so your logic is backwards.

Also, Florida is not one of the states with the lowest vaccination rates.
Yeah. Contradict yourself in a single post.

Vaccinated people have far less chance of getting hospitalised because of Corona.

The hospitals are filling up with the unvaccinated. Stop spreading misinformation and lies.

When 100% of people are vaccinated. 100% of corona hospitalisations will be vaccinated people. Yes. That is true.
But it will be 94% less hospitalisations than if 100% of the population was unvaccinated.

You really have to stop and think before posting your garbage.

You do not comprehend. Don’t act like you do.
If the majority of countries, the majority of health organisations and the majority of doctors, all backed up with numbers, are telling you A. Then A is far more likely to be true than 1 doctor and far-out conspiracy driven webpages telling you B is true.

Stop it. Or take it to spirituality or the retard farm or wherever else you oozed from.

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@sh76 said
I'm sure that has nothing to do with the facts that it's brutally hot and humid in Florida this time of year and everybody is using a/c, and that Florida has the third largest population of any state.
I thought it was a Republican-sworn truth that hot weather killed COVID?

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@metal-brain said
Florida has a lot of old people living there. Old people are more likely to be republican. Old people are likely to get vaccinated. That means a lot of old republicans got vaccinated in Florida, so your logic is backwards.
Read the OP: children are being hospitalized, including children under twelve years old.

Parents of young children tend to be around 20-35 years old. Republicans in this age group are much less likely to be vaccinated. So you are, as expected, wrong.

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@vivify said
Look at this COVID map:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html

Now look at this election map of Florida for the 2020 race:

https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/florida/

Southern Florida has the most Democrats in the state: it also has far lower COVID rates. That's most likely because Democrats take COVID more seriously.

Also: ...[text shortened]... ar more likely that the Republican policy of blocking COVID restrictions is quite simply disastrous.
Of course vaccination rates are part of it, but it's equally possible the high density cities in South Florida got hit harder in earlier waves and so there's less dry tinder and, of course, that South Florida is getting hit less hard because it's filled with retirees who are much more likely to be vaccinated.

California, while hot in some regions, has much more pleasant summer weather than Florida and people are much more likely to be outdoors this time of year. California may have had some heat waves this year, but it's incomparably better weather than Florida.

We went through all this same stuff when the South spiked last summer. People also said it was Georgia's human sacrifice and all that other BS. Then the Fall and winter came and the north got hit harder than the south because, you know, winter.

Why don't you look at OVER-ALL death toll from COVID and correct for population and age and see how the Floridas stack up against the New Yorks.

I'd also challenge your assumption that COVID cases can be described as "disastrous." If you're going to discuss "disastrous," show me deaths. Getting COVID and then recovering is hardly a disaster.

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@sh76 said
California, while hot in some regions, has much more pleasant summer weather than Florida and people are much more likely to be outdoors this time of year. California may have had some heat waves this year, but it's incomparably better weather than Florida.
As I showed you in a link from my post, California has had heat waves with temps in the triple digits. That same hate wave was made even worse from the forest fires ravaging the state.

I'd also challenge your assumption that COVID cases can be described as "disastrous." If you're going to discuss "disastrous," show me deaths. Getting COVID and then recovering is hardly a disaster.

How many kids being sent to the hospital would it take to be a disaster? Is 32 children per day is not enough? Or is it not a disaster unless those hospitalized children actually die?

We went through all this same stuff when the South spiked last summer. People also said it was Georgia's human sacrifice and all that other BS. Then the Fall and winter came and the north got hit harder than the south because, you know, winter.

Look at that COVID map I posted. The hardest-hit areas are conservative states with with low vaccination rates. It's not a coincidence that red states, which are part of the conservative culture that spreads misinformation about inoculations and deliberate apathy toward COVID, are suffering the most. Nor is it a coincidence that southern Florida, which has the most Democrats in that state, contains the lowest concentration of COVID cases.

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@vivify said
As I showed you in a link from my post, California has had heat waves with temps in the triple digits. That same hate wave was made even worse from the forest fires ravaging the state.

[b]I'd also challenge your assumption that COVID cases can be described as "disastrous." If you're going to discuss "disastrous," show me deaths. Getting COVID and then recovering is hardl ...[text shortened]... he lowest concentration of COVID cases is South Florida, which has the most Democrats in that state.
The "red states" being hard hit are all in the deep South. Red states Montana, Utah, Nebraska, Iowa Kansas, the Dakotas, etc., seem to be doing fine.

And there are plenty of blue areas in those red states (New Orleans area) that are getting his just as hard. How about Miami-Dade? A blue county being hit just as hard as much of the north part of the state? Palm Beach and Broward are certainly being helped by high vax rates among older people.

Texas is being his harder in the bluer southern areas than the redder northern areas.

That map looks regional, not political.

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