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Forensic analysis of Dominion voting machines

Forensic analysis of Dominion voting machines

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@ponderable said
So assume that you had a capitalistic system in which people would be encouraged to make money based on their assemssment of the market.

Assume that there is a case in court in which one party seems to be winning big.

Would any well-infromed person with some money invest in the winner?

So I am astonished that someone in the USA is complaining that people pout ther wager ona clear winner.
We can dumb it down even more than that, since Dominion is a privately owned company.

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@suzianne said
Lies.

What are you getting out of telling lies like this? You must be the most gullible person ever.
You must be the most gullible person ever.

Tucker did not get fired for telling lies. He did not tell any lies. The forensic analysis proves that and nobody demanded a second forensic analysis from someone else for a second opinion.

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@kevcvs57 said
Everything 🙄
Electronic voting machines from a leading vendor used in at least 16 states have software vulnerabilities that leave them susceptible to hacking if unaddressed, the nation’s leading cybersecurity agency says in an advisory sent to state election officials.

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-technology-georgia-election-2020-a746b253f3404dbf794349df498c9542

We know Dominion machines are flawed. And here is an excerpt from the link below:

"The most pricey solution available, they are at least twice as expensive as the hand-marked paper ballot option. They have been vigorously promoted by the three voting equipment vendors that control 88 percent of the U.S. market.

Some of the most popular ballot-marking machines, made by industry leaders Election Systems & Software and Dominion Voting Systems, register votes in bar codes that the human eye cannot decipher. That’s a problem, researchers say: Voters could end up with printouts that accurately spell out the names of the candidates they picked, but, because of a hack, the bar codes do not reflect those choices. Because the bar codes are what’s tabulated, voters would never know that their ballots benefited another candidate.

Even on machines that do not use bar codes, voters may not notice if a hack or programming error mangled their choices. A University of Michigan study determined that only 7 percent of participants in a mock election notified poll workers when the names on their printed receipts did not match the candidates they voted for."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/reliability-of-pricey-new-voting-machines-questioned

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@suzianne said
Those were the ones lying about Dominion for Trump on-air. Duh.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/14/michigan-judge-allows-release-report-antrim-county-voting/6537394002/

The report, authored by Russell James Ramsland, Jr., who is part of Allied Security Operations Group's (ASOG) management team, says the group found an "error rate" of 68% when examining "the tabulation log" of the server for Antrim County. It's also unclear what the "error rate" data refers to specifically and how it impacts the results.

"The results of the Antrim County 2020 election are not certifiable," Ramsland wrote. "This is a result of machine and/or software error, not human error."

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@metal-brain said
You must be the most gullible person ever.

Tucker did not get fired for telling lies. He did not tell any lies. The forensic analysis proves that and nobody demanded a second forensic analysis from someone else for a second opinion.
Why are you assuming that Global Research, a conspiracy rag on the internet, is telling the truth?


As I said, gullible. You fall for confirmation bias every time.

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@metal-brain said
Yes they did, They singled out statements from Carlson, Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Jeanine Pirro and Maria Bartiromo. It says so in the lawsuit.
Uhuh.

It’s you against the rest of the world again.

Get a grip son.

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@suzianne said
Why are you assuming that Global Research, a conspiracy rag on the internet, is telling the truth?


As I said, gullible. You fall for confirmation bias every time.
The Detroit News you liar.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/14/michigan-judge-allows-release-report-antrim-county-voting/6537394002/

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@suzianne said
Lies.

What are you getting out of telling lies like this? You must be the most gullible person ever.
The forensic analysis concluded dominion voting machines had a 68% inherent error rate and reported they were designed to be that way. Reporting the forensic analysis is not defamation by the reporter. They just reported the official finding of that forensic analysis.

Notice that Dominion did not sue the business that did the forensic analysis. Why not? What is dominion afraid of if the forensic analysis was a lie?

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@metal-brain said
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/14/michigan-judge-allows-release-report-antrim-county-voting/6537394002/

The report, authored by Russell James Ramsland, Jr., who is part of Allied Security Operations Group's (ASOG) management team, says the group found an "error rate" of 68% when examining "the tabulation log" of the server for Antrim County. It ...[text shortened]... certifiable," Ramsland wrote. "This is a result of machine and/or software error, not human error."
You fat liar.

You are misrepresenting this article.

Here is the article IN FULL. Try reading it, perhaps for the first time.

Michigan election officials slam report on votes in Antrim County
Craig Mauger
The Detroit News

Lansing — Michigan's top election officials denounced Monday a 23-page report on voting technology in rural Antrim County, which has become a hot spot for conspiracies trying to discredit President-elect Joe Biden's victory nationally.

On Monday morning, Circuit Court Judge Kevin Elsenheimer allowed supporters of President Donald Trump to publicly release and discuss information they've collected through a forensic analysis of tabulators and data in the 23,000-person Northern Michigan county.

The information, which was gathered as part of a legal fight there, had previously been under protective order, meaning it couldn't be publicly released.

Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson and Attorney General Dana Nessel issued a joint statement calling the report "another in a long stream of misguided, vague and dubious assertions designed to erode public confidence in the November presidential election."

Antrim County, which is reliably Republican, has been in the spotlight because its initial results on election night showed Biden ahead of Trump by thousands of votes. Election officials later determined there were problems in the reporting of the results, and Trump ended up winning the county by more than 3,700 votes.

"If the Trump campaign had any actual evidence of wrongdoing – or genuine suspicion thereof – they could have requested a hand recount of every ballot in the state," Benson said in a Monday statement. "They did not, instead choosing to allow shadowy organizations claiming expertise to throw around baseless claims of fraud in an effort to mislead American voters and undermine the integrity of the election."

But Trump, who lost Michigan by 154,000 votes, tweeted that the report showed "massive fraud." The report came from an organization called Allied Security Operations Group, which has previously made false claims about Michigan's election.

The group previously claimed there were six precincts with more than 120% turnout in the state's election. But its data was incorrect, according to publicly available turnout numbers.

The new report alleges that Dominion Voting Systems, the election technology used by Antrim County and elsewhere, "is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results." It's unclear how Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG) reached this conclusion, however.

Likewise, the report, authored by Russell James Ramsland, Jr., who is part of ASOG's management team, says the group found an "error rate" of 68% when examining "the tabulation log" of the server for Antrim County. It's also unclear what the "error rate" data refers to specifically and how it impacts the results.

"The results of the Antrim County 2020 election are not certifiable," Ramsland wrote. "This is a result of machine and/or software error, not human error."


In one section, the report referenced a 2004 referendum vote in Venezuela, saying the findings in Antrim County reflected the same tactics to "manipulate" votes.

Benson, Nessel, Michigan Elections Director Jonathan Brater, Dominion and Antrim County Clerk Sheryl Guy all pushed back on the report.

Guy, a Republican, said she was saddened by the efforts to discredit the equipment.

"I did read the report and find that there are many misleading statements that are simply not accurate," Guy said.

Dominion said in a statement that there were no software glitches in Antrim County or anywhere else. The problems in the county were "isolated human errors not involving Dominion." Officials failed to update the programming in their tabulators after requiring changes to their ballot, the company said.

The clerk's staff in Antrim County did not update the media drives for all of the tabulators in the county, so some tabulators did not communicate properly with the county’s central election management system software, according to the Michigan Secretary of State's Office.

After discovering the error in reporting the unofficial results, the clerk's office worked to report correct unofficial results by reviewing the printed totals tape on each tabulator and hand-entering the results for each race, for each precinct in the county, the secretary of state's office previously said.

In a signed statement filed in court, Brater said the report makes a "series of unsupported conclusions" and "ascribes motives of fraud and obfuscation to processes that are easily explained as routine election procedures or error corrections."

Michigan uses hand-marked paper ballots, Brater noted. The Michigan Bureau of Elections and Antrim County will conduct a hand tally of all ballots cast in the presidential election there, he said.

The report was spurred through a lawsuit brought by Antrim County resident William Bailey. Elsenheimer, the judge and a former Republican lawmaker, allowed Allied Security Operations Group and Bailey to take forensic images of the county's 22 tabulators and review other election-related material.

In recent days, Bailey's attorney, Matthew DePerno, pushed to have the information they found released publicly.

"Documents filed with the court and documents being used within this litigation should be public record," contended DePerno during a court hearing Monday morning.

But Erik Grill, an assistant attorney general representing Benson in the case, warned that the analysis is "inaccurate, incomplete and misleading."

“There’s no reason to hide," Grill said during a virtual court hearing Monday morning. "There is nothing to hide.”

On Sunday, attorneys representing six Michigan Republicans who are challenging the state's election results asked the U.S. Supreme Court to allow them to file new evidence under seal — meaning it's not released to the public — including a "forensic examination" of voting machines in Antrim County, according to a letter obtained by The Detroit News.

"This evidence is crucial to a just resolution of the cases pending before this court," the Michigan Republicans' attorneys wrote to the U.S. Supreme Court. "The petitioners stand ready to provide the evidence to the court under the procedures it deems appropriate."

Biden won Michigan by 154,000 votes in results that were certified Nov. 23 by the Board of State Canvassers. The Michigan Secretary of State's Office has previously warned "voters to be wary of the claims" related to the Antrim County examination.

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The portion you got your post from is in bold.

This article is slamming the report, not supporting it. You publish what the report said, refusing to note that the article claims this "ascribes motives of fraud and obfuscation to processes that are easily explained as routine election procedures or error corrections."

Take your stupid conspiracy theory and piss off, dude.

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@Suzianne
WRONG! I did not lie about anything.

You have a problem with the forensic analysis' findings. If you want to call that a lie that is fine, but I am just the messenger. Fox News had the forensic analysis report to back up their reporting, which BTW was mostly guests that were making dubious claims, not Tucker or Dobbs. Are they supposed to police their guest's opinions?

You have a problem with the forensic analysis' findings. Stop calling those that point to it liars. If you have a problem with the forensic analysis' findings tell Dominion to sue those liars, not those that report their findings. And did anyone demand a second opinion? No? I guess nobody wanted to open that can of worms, eh?

Aside from badmouthing the source of the forensic analysis' findings nobody really contested the findings with another source, right? Maybe because the original source was right. otherwise it would have been contested with more than slander after a cover up.

Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG) is who you have a problem with moron.
Why no second opinion if they are the liars you claim them to be? Other than mere slander calling them liars, where is the procedural action contesting the conclusion by Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG)?

Seems to me Allied Security Operations Group's findings are uncontested in the legal realm. Why didn't your side give it a serious legal challenge? Because it is accurate?

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There is more evidence that Biden is not the elected president of the US than there is evidence that Lukashenka is not the elected president of Belarus.

It is much more probable that Biden is illegal than that Lukashenka is.

In the West, they say that the hypothesis that the US presidential elections were seriously faked is a conspiracy theory.

In the present thread, someone has also used the argument from the conspiracy theory.

Dear chess friends!

The hypothesis that Lukashenka won the presidential elections only due to serious and systematic violations has never, ever been publicly and scientifically proved, and this hypothesis is a conspiracy theory too.

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it resulted in an excuse to fire Tucker Carlson.. the most informed, honest, fair newsperson ever to be on television. !

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@eintaluj said
@Metal-Brain

There is more evidence that Biden is not the elected president of the US than there is evidence that Lukashenka is not the elected president of Belarus.

It is much more probable that Biden is illegal than that Lukashenka is.

In the West, they say that the hypothesis that the US presidential elections were seriously faked is a conspiracy theory.
...[text shortened]... never, ever been publicly and scientifically proved, and this hypothesis is a conspiracy theory too.
Why do you support demagogues?

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@mlb62 said
it resulted in an excuse to fire Tucker Carlson.. the most informed, honest, fair newsperson ever to be on television. !
Oh. My. God.

I know you meant to say the biggest liar ever to be on television.

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@eintaluj said
@Metal-Brain

There is more evidence that Biden is not the elected president of the US than there is evidence that Lukashenka is not the elected president of Belarus.

It is much more probable that Biden is illegal than that Lukashenka is.

In the West, they say that the hypothesis that the US presidential elections were seriously faked is a conspiracy theory.
...[text shortened]... never, ever been publicly and scientifically proved, and this hypothesis is a conspiracy theory too.
I'm very sorry that your intelligence has disintegrated to this degree.

You should try an organic diet. This is what too many Big Macs does to you.

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