14 Apr 22
@sh76 saidYou never know with the French; Chirac was re-elected in 2002 with 82% of the vote in the second round but was widely unpopular in by 2007 and retired rather than seek a third term.
It's one thing to say you don't like the job the current person is doing, it's another for someone with baggage to beat him. As we know from US polls, a "generic" Republican or Democrat always does better than the actual candidate.
I guess it's my frame of reference, but 66% to me isn't just a win. It's a historic blowout. It would be like Mondale coming back in '88 and beating Reagan.
Anything's possible, I guess. But I'll believe it when it happens.
He was also the last French President to win re-election.
24 Apr 22
@sh76 saidAs I was saying...
It's one thing to say you don't like the job the current person is doing, it's another for someone with baggage to beat him. As we know from US polls, a "generic" Republican or Democrat always does better than the actual candidate.
I guess it's my frame of reference, but 66% to me isn't just a win. It's a historic blowout. It would be like Mondale coming back in '88 and beating Reagan.
Anything's possible, I guess. But I'll believe it when it happens.
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24 Apr 22
@kevcvs57 saidYes, there, like here, the growing
A comfortable rejection of the fat right but they need to address the issues of poverty and interracial / cultural issues before the next presidential election
gap between the 'haves', and 'have nots,'
is a disruption to societies the world over.
24 Apr 22
@jimm619 saidGiven the arrogance and detachment Macron has brought to bear on the plight of the poor and disenfranchised in France it’s pretty amazing that he’s managed to win with a nearly 20% margin. The French did well today.
Yes, there, like here, the growing
gap between the 'haves', and 'have nots,'
is a disruption to societies the world over.
@kevcvs57 saidIt's about 13 points in the latest counts with 84% reporting. Still a reasonably wide margin, but far short of Macron's margin in 2017.
Given the arrogance and detachment Macron has brought to bear on the plight of the poor and disenfranchised in France it’s pretty amazing that he’s managed to win with a nearly 20% margin. The French did well today.
The polls had moved more Macron's way in the last week esp. after the debate where he smeared Le Pen with her party's loan from a Russian bank 8 years ago. Anti-Russian politicking is probably going to play well in Europe for a while.
25 Apr 22
@kevcvs57 saidI don’t think the far right getting any more than 1% of the vote should be called comfortable.
A comfortable rejection of the fat right but they need to address the issues of poverty and interracial / cultural issues before the next presidential election