262d
From the BBC:
The G7 has agreed to use frozen Russian assets to raise $50bn (£39bn) for Ukraine to help it fight invading Russian forces.
US President Joe Biden said it was another reminder to Russia "that we're not backing down", but Moscow has threatened "extremely painful" retaliatory measures.
What do you all make of this?
Freezing a country’s assets and then giving those assets to another country who’s at war with the country the assets were originally from?
Imagine freezing Israel’s assets and then giving them to Hamas. Or freezing US assets and giving them to border refugees or something.
Do you find it acceptable?
Do you think Russia should accept this measure?
I don’t mean if Russia is right or wrong in this war. But of I look at it from Russia’s perspective, I’d pretty much see it as an escalation. And I reckon it would make me rather angry.
So, personally, I reckon this is going to make things rather worse than better.
262d
@shavixmir
Moscow should “obliterate their energy infrastructure, industry, transport, banking and social services. Instil fear over an imminent collapse of all critical infrastructure,” according to Medvedev, who currently serves as deputy chair of the Russian Security Council.
https://www.rt.com/russia/599204-medvedev-maximum-damage-west/
He seems very upset.
262d
@shavixmir saidWhy were those Russian assets frozen?
From the BBC:
The G7 has agreed to use frozen Russian assets to raise $50bn (£39bn) for Ukraine to help it fight invading Russian forces.
US President Joe Biden said it was another reminder to Russia "that we're not backing down", but Moscow has threatened "extremely painful" retaliatory measures.
What do you all make of this?
Freezing a country’s as ...[text shortened]... ke me rather angry.
So, personally, I reckon this is going to make things rather worse than better.
262d
@Suzianne saidThey were frozen, I presume, because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Why were those Russian assets frozen?
I'm not sure who froze them, but seeing it's the G7 who's redistributing them, I would think it was the G7 that froze them.
262d
@shavixmir saidWar is a dirty business. Russia has been targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure; that’s not how a civilized country treats people and territories it considers its own. Given that NATO is loath to put boots on the ground to drive the Russians out, NATO countries are trying other measures. Financial leverage is one of them. Of course it’s an escalation, and Russia will find some counter-threat in response to it.
From the BBC:
The G7 has agreed to use frozen Russian assets to raise $50bn (£39bn) for Ukraine to help it fight invading Russian forces.
US President Joe Biden said it was another reminder to Russia "that we're not backing down", but Moscow has threatened "extremely painful" retaliatory measures.
What do you all make of this?
Freezing a country’s as ...[text shortened]... ke me rather angry.
So, personally, I reckon this is going to make things rather worse than better.
262d
@shavixmir saidThen I'd say that if Russia wants their assets back, then they can get the f--- out of Ukraine.
They were frozen, I presume, because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
I'm not sure who froze them, but seeing it's the G7 who's redistributing them, I would think it was the G7 that froze them.
262d
@Metal-Brain saidRussia Today is your favorite channel. You believe everything they say.
@shavixmir
Moscow should “obliterate their energy infrastructure, industry, transport, banking and social services. Instil fear over an imminent collapse of all critical infrastructure,” according to Medvedev, who currently serves as deputy chair of the Russian Security Council.
https://www.rt.com/russia/599204-medvedev-maximum-damage-west/
He seems very upset.
Why don't you just go live there.
262d
@Suzianne saidI think we can agree that Russia should get out of Ukraine.
Then I'd say that if Russia wants their assets back, then they can get the f--- out of Ukraine.
My point is that a 3rd part seizes the assets of a nation and then distributes it to the enemy of said nation.
Somehow, something in me thinks this isn’t the wisest of decisions. What sort of precedent is it setting?
262d
@Suzianne saidAre you claiming the quotes I posted from RT are untrue?
Russia Today is your favorite channel. You believe everything they say.
Why don't you just go live there.
Yes or no?
You are trolling with irrelevancies again. The source doesn't matter until you specifically dispute something. Until you exercise that right you are have nothing.
The truth is that RT is usually quite accurate, relatively speaking. Jesse Ventura was actually quite impressed with RT and learned that RT was run without any influence from him Putin just as Putin told him when they met. Look into it sometime instead of throwing your dung at anything Russia.
Let me know when you are ready to stop behaving like a dung throwing ape.
262d
@shavixmir
"I think we can agree that Russia should get out of Ukraine."
Why should they? Ukraine used to be part of the USSR. I could argue Russia is just taking back was was stolen from them by the USA. The USA took Ukraine by a coup. That is a fact. Another fact is that the US government installed known neo Nazis in the Ukraine government. Fact, not theory.
McCain had no problem shaking the Nazi's hand and stood shoulder to shoulder with Oleh Tyahnybok. Gonna claim it was photo shopped Mr. Denial?
https://www.businessinsider.com/john-mccain-meets-oleh-tyahnybok-in-ukraine-2013-12?op=1