31 Jul 12
Here in SA our president is Polygamous. Although we all talk about it, to a large extent it doesn't affect his politics. We are far more concerned about the fact that someone was found guilty of bribing him, and that he was once accused of rape (but not found guilty)
We are also more tolerant of gay people than the US, but I suspect it would be difficult for a gay person to get elected president.
31 Jul 12
Originally posted by EladarI keep hearing that phrase but nobody expands on it, does it mean that all marriages would be null and void from a legal perspective and that everyone had to make the same private arrangements as gay people do at the moment.
Get the government out of marriage relationships and neither is an issue.
31 Jul 12
Originally posted by twhiteheadIf He has more than one wife He would be very susceptible to bribery.
Here in SA our president is Polygamous. Although we all talk about it, to a large extent it doesn't affect his politics. We are far more concerned about the fact that someone was found guilty of bribing him, and that he was once accused of rape (but not found guilty)
We are also more tolerant of gay people than the US, but I suspect it would be difficult for a gay person to get elected president.
31 Jul 12
Originally posted by whodeyA return to the traditions of the nineteenth century in other words... Funny. Usually you seem quite keen for your country to return to the way it was in the nineteenth century (e.g., minimal state safety net, untrammelled capitalism, no minimum wage, no federal income tax).
In addition, it seems that anyone in the world can now be a US citizen. The only criteria is making it across the border somehow, someway.
31 Jul 12
Originally posted by KunsooGet government out of Government, we could all form our own Governments and vote for ourselves ( if we agreed with our policies ), of course this may result in a deadlocked legislature and an awful lot of lame duck presidents, so no change there.
Get government off my sidewalk! No more government financed sidewalks! Let us each run our own portion of the sidewalk. We can charge to let people pass if we want, and let the free market prevail!
31 Jul 12
Originally posted by TeinosukeWhodey wants a "minimal" government that has 500 heavily armed security guards along every mile of the US-Mexico border.
A return to the traditions of the nineteenth century in other words... Funny. Usually you seem quite keen for your country to return to the way it was in the nineteenth century (e.g., minimal state safety net, untrammelled capitalism, no minimum wage, no federal income tax).
31 Jul 12
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Originally posted by TeinosukeYes of course. We have similar variation within South Africa and I am sure that gay people get discriminated against to some extent just about everywhere.
That probably depends on whether by "the US", you mean Wyoming or San Francisco...
Is same-sex marriage legal in San Francisco?
31 Jul 12
Originally posted by twhiteheadIt would be far harder in the US to win the Presidency being a polygamist than gay.
Here in SA our president is Polygamous. Although we all talk about it, to a large extent it doesn't affect his politics. We are far more concerned about the fact that someone was found guilty of bribing him, and that he was once accused of rape (but not found guilty)
We are also more tolerant of gay people than the US, but I suspect it would be difficult for a gay person to get elected president.
31 Jul 12
Originally posted by TeinosukeYou forgot, no $16 trillion debt, no running multiple foreign wars abroad, no government 24/7 survellience of its citizens, no NDAA so that citizens could not be detained without trial indefinately, a return of respect for the Constitution and rule of law, etc.
A return to the traditions of the nineteenth century in other words... Funny. Usually you seem quite keen for your country to return to the way it was in the nineteenth century (e.g., minimal state safety net, untrammelled capitalism, no minimum wage, no federal income tax).
Yes, I can dream, can't I?
31 Jul 12
Originally posted by whodeyAre Americans really that anti-polygamy? Most of the world has accepted polygamy in the past, including most religions. Very few places are or have been as tolerant of homosexuality.
It would be far harder in the US to win the Presidency being a polygamist than gay.
Do you think it is the Christian influence that would cause objection to polygamy?
31 Jul 12
Originally posted by twhiteheadSomeone has yet to come up with a rational objection to either, and I'm pretty sure it will not happen on this thread.
Are Americans really that anti-polygamy? Most of the world has accepted polygamy in the past, including most religions. Very few places are or have been as tolerant of homosexuality.
Do you think it is the Christian influence that would cause objection to polygamy?