05 Nov 09
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Originally posted by sh76Christie probably would need to become more fit if he is to have the stamina to handle a two year long national campaign. (I do wish there was some way of banning presidential campaigns from starting before that August Iowa straw poll, but it appears that it's become an almost two-year process).
Before TV and the internet.
On the other hand, it would be nice to see someone be electable without being "telegenic". But I agree that's asking an awful lot. On the other hand, solving New Jersey's property tax problem is also asking an awful lot and the politics genie is only willing to fulfill so many wishes. So Christie better'd lose a few pounds between now and the campaign for 2016. (I seriously doubt he'll solve much of NJ's problems in time to be a player in the 2012 campaign season which starts only a little more than a year from now.)
05 Nov 09
Originally posted by sh76I agree. The old right wing hasn't won much in the last 5 years. Not to worry though. With little Sarah Palin leading the way, and the G O P's skillful handling of the US economy, I see a great Republican resurgence in 2010!! 🙄
Big wins in VA and NJ could be the start of a resurgence of common sense Republican policies.
Hoffman's loss in NY-23 shows that ideologues and extremists continue to generally lose and hopefully this discourages the GOP from backing far right conservatives and may help secure the nomination of Crist over Rubio in Florida, which will most likely mean a moder ...[text shortened]... last night. Now all we need is a Yankee win tonight and all will be right with the World.
05 Nov 09
Originally posted by bill718Nothing even resembling conservatives have been in the White House since Reagan. In fact, I blame Reagan for appointing Bush Sr. as VP. If he had not done so, the man would NEVER have gotten into the White House nor his son "W". That's what happens when conservatives try to appease the center by appointing moderate Rhinos as their running mate.
I agree. The old right wing hasn't won much in the last 5 years. Not to worry though. With little Sarah Palin leading the way, and the G O P's skillful handling of the US economy, I see a great Republican resurgence in 2010!! 🙄
The scary part for the Dems now is, they can no longer blame "W" for their ills. Now they have to stand on their own two feet and their is precious little to stand on. In fact, they are making matters worse by spending like "W" and favoring policies that will cost voters more tax money. The problem is, where are the jobs? Where is the growth? Why is it none of our salaries are going up but taxes and inflation continue to go up? We are sinking and no one seems to care. If this continues, 2010 will be D-Day.
05 Nov 09
Originally posted by whodeyIt is, I suppose, to Obama's credit that he has quite conspicuously refrained from doing this - at least relative to what might have been justified in being said. Whatever his failings, I think all can agree that Obama has exhibited a good deal of graciousness in how he has characterized the complete and utter debacle of G.W.Bush years.
The scary part for the Dems now is, they can no longer blame "W" for their ills.
05 Nov 09
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Originally posted by whodeyWell, 2010 will look better, but unemployment will still likely be fairly high this time next year (not 10% high, but above 5😵. Since as Mel said, the average Joe doesn't understand business cycles, they'll ask why the Dem's screwed things up so much. They'll counter that they inherited it (kind of hard to swallow for the public, though the crisis really doesn't have much to do with either party in particular). We'll see, but I could see the Reps regaining seats in close or traditionally Rep areas.
Nothing even resembling conservatives have been in the White House since Reagan. In fact, I blame Reagan for appointing Bush Sr. as VP. If he had not done so, the man would NEVER have gotten into the White House nor his son "W". That's what happens when conservatives try to appease the center by appointing moderate Rhinos as their running mate.
The scar go up? We are sinking and no one seems to care. If this continues, 2010 will be D-Day.
For the Reps to take a more serious position at the national stage, they'll have to get there party straightened out, and they'll have to put some more moderates back into their ranks. It's like a baseball team. It's great to have a line up of sluggers that slam home runs and a couple ace pitchers that throw 100+ and have mean action, but you've gotta have some clutch players on your team that can play small ball, field, and come in out of the bullpen in relief to be a successful team.
BTW, what are rhinos? You've been using that word for a while now. I get that they are like elephants (Reps) but not elephants. Is there more to it?
05 Nov 09
Originally posted by telerionR epublicans I n N ame O nly... RINO
Well, 2010 will look better, but unemployment will still likely be fairly high this time next year (not 10% high, but above 5😵. Since as Mel said, the average Joe doesn't understand business cycles, they'll ask why the Dem's screwed things up so much. They'll counter that they inherited it (kind of hard to swallow for the public, though the crisis really ...[text shortened]... I get that they are like elephants (Reps) but not elephants. Is there more to it?
05 Nov 09
Originally posted by FMFHe's realizing (or knew before) that being President is a lot harder than popular opinion would lead us to believe!
It is, I suppose, to Obama's credit that he has quite conspicuously refrained from doing this - at least relative to what might have been justified in being said. Whatever his failings, I think all can agree that Obama has exhibited a good deal of graciousness in how he has characterized the complete and utter debacle of G.W.Bush years.
05 Nov 09
Originally posted by telerionI don't deny that the Republicans need to get things "straightened out". In fact, I have no interest in them if they don't. What this means to me, however, is that they don't pander to moderates. It is what got us in the mess we are in now. For once, they need to stand on principle and let the chips fall where they may. Otherwise, what does it matter if they even get into office? They will go along with what the left wants to do in a round about way eventually if they don't stop comprimising. It is one of the reasons why "W" fell from grace and why McCain lost. No conservative wants to get behind a wolf in sheeps clothing.
For the Reps to take a more serious position at the national stage, they'll have to get there party straightened out, and they'll have to put some more moderates back into their ranks.
05 Nov 09
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Originally posted by sh76I thought Liberman was an independent? In fact, I wish the party system would just all go away so we can vote for issues rather than partisanship. That way moderates dissappear altogether.
Dems have their DINOs as well.
Zell Miller
Joe Lieberman
Ben Nelson