Debates
18 Jan 09
18 Jan 09
Originally posted by StarValleyWyDie Hard 4..🙂
Do hackers serve any good purpose in our world or are they dangerous and harmful?
If I were a really, really good hacker (which I am not) I would want to humiliate the entire world for making such dumb, boneheaded mistakes. I would want to show how silly it is to put all the security of the world into military and diplomatic efforts.
I would proba ...[text shortened]... 's minions couldn't do in sixty years -- turn the US into a socialist state. I wonder.
Hackers are very useful. Smart corporations try to hire them.
18 Jan 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraYou're really naive if you think the world's military forces are not paying attention. Of course they fund and invest in both offensive and defensive measures.
I think it's highly unlikely things like this can continue on a grand scale without any international incident.
19 Jan 09
Originally posted by StarValleyWyThere have been a number of exciting movies with that proposition as basis.
Oh I dunno. Does one have to believe that a postulate is true before it can be proffered for consideration?
I guess an obvious point of debate would be "Proposed: All the money spent by governments world wide on Cyber Warfare Defense is wasted because there can be no defense if the Offense is better funded." or something.
Do you think that Cyber ...[text shortened]... r?
I dunno. There has to be something more interesting to debate than Palestine and Israel.
Of course, my own theory is that the International Bankers did this all by themselves.
19 Jan 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraFunding is not relevant. Defense against hacking is mostly reactive. A great majority of hackers are unpaid nuisances. They occupy a lot of time and resources, leaving a possible vulnerability to a well funded and intentionally destructive hacker backed by a nation or terrorist group.
I disagree with your proposition because the security against hackers is definately far better funded than the hackers themselves.
19 Jan 09
Again, for fear of hacker receiving a bad name, I feel compelled to point
out that a hacker is a person who purposely tries to detect flaws in
software, and who "hacks" together a patch that can be used until a
more permanent solution can be found. Sure, a hacker could use his/her
knowledge to break into yet unprotected servers, but then (s)he's no
longer a hacker. Think of it this way: an accountant is an accountant
until (s)he starts fiddling with the numbers to get some extra on the
side, then (s)he's a criminal and a fraud. Yes, yes, (s)he's still an
accountant technically speaking, but it's not the first title we use for
him/her then, is it?
Now, sure there are loafers out there trying to bring servers down and
what not, but thanks to the heroic and most diligent work of our good
friends the HACKERS (ta-ta-taaaa), they're kept somewhat in check.
So give it up for the hackers y'aaaall!!! Whoooo! 😀
19 Jan 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraActually, many companies who are serious about security hire hackers to
Sure, they employ people to break into, say, terrorist websites.
break into their own servers. As soon as a security hole has been detected,
a fix is hacked and the team responsible for the software is informed of the
possible security risk. That's how most of your important security Windows
updates are made.
Tip of the day: Always make sure your computer is updated with the
latest security fixes. This is especially important for your operating system,
but should include all your installed programs.
19 Jan 09
Originally posted by normbenignFAIL.
Funding is not relevant. Defense against hacking is mostly reactive. A great majority of hackers are unpaid nuisances.
These nuisances are almost always 'Script Kiddies' who have skewed, romanticised views of what 'hacking' is - the term hackers these days conjures up negative views because of the negative biased reporting by the media.
The hackers who help fix security holes are just not sensational news, eh?
'Hackers' are mostly skilled IT professionals who are many times contracted to help secure systems and networks.
19 Jan 09
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Originally posted by JigtieCan I break into your house, so I can see how I can better protect mine? I'll close the door on my way out. 😀
Again, for fear of hacker receiving a bad name, I feel compelled to point
out that a hacker is a person who purposely tries to detect flaws in
software, and who "hacks" together a patch that can be used until a
more permanent solution can be found. Sure, a hacker could use his/her
knowledge to break into yet unprotected servers, but then (s)he's no
they're kept somewhat in check.
So give it up for the hackers y'aaaall!!! Whoooo! 😀