22 May 21
@rajk999 said"Vivify was saying that Hamas was not representing Palestinians. I was just pointing out that that statment was not correct."
Vivify was saying that Hamas was not representing Palestinians. I was just pointing out that that statment was not correct.
As for the WHY? Who cares?
It's complicated. As most real problems are. Maybe you should put in some more effort in understanding that. Hamas is not representing Palestinians. Hamas is representing some palestinians who actually want all Israelis to die and some palestinians who want to escape Gaza and some who want equal citizenship to Israelis because they know that a country of their own is impossible right now and some who just want to not live in fear that the Israelis will bomb their children.
"As for the WHY? Who cares?"
A decent person who is not intellectually lazy? Maybe someone who likes to understand the world around them instead of being presented with propaganda from the side of their choice.
More than 70 million americans just voted for Trump. Do all of them support everything he says? Are all of them racist? Are all of them happy with how he dealt with Covid?
And what is an appropriate response to dealing with those 70 million americans now that Biden is in the White House? Should we start evicting them from their homes in California and New York and ship them off to Arkansas? Declare some of them ineligible to vote? Start bombing arkansas? Control electricity medicine and pretty much any service going into Arkansas which would be an open air prison (just like Gaza, in case you don't understand what this scenario refers to)
22 May 21
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@zahlanzi saidIm glad you used the case of the US and Trump. Anyone can find zillions of support from US citizens, for the simple fact that Trump [or the Republican party] speaks for only some of the US citizens
"Vivify was saying that Hamas was not representing Palestinians. I was just pointing out that that statment was not correct."
It's complicated. As most real problems are. Maybe you should put in some more effort in understanding that. Hamas is not representing Palestinians. Hamas is representing some palestinians who actually want all Israelis to die and some palestinians w ...[text shortened]... ld be an open air prison (just like Gaza, in case you don't understand what this scenario refers to)
Please provide supporting statements from Palestinians that they do not support Hamas or Hamas actions.
Got facts? Spit it out. Not interested in anything else.
Im waiting.
22 May 21
@rajk999 saidThe simple fact that Hamas kills and tortures palestinians supporting Fatah is sufficient proof of "not every palestinian supports Hamas"
Im glad you used the case of the US and Trump. Anyone can find zillions of support from US citizens, for the simple fact that Trump [or the Republican party] speaks for only some of the US citizens
Please provide supporting statements from Palestinians that they do not support Hamas or Hamas actions.
Got facts? Spit it out. Not interested in anything else.
Im waiting.
Polls after polls of palestinians living both inside and outside Gaza show them supporting a two state solution (even though Israel tries to erode more and more the possibility of such a solution) and to continue negotiations with Israel (which Hamas didn't recognize).
What exactly do you want as proof? A palestinian living in Gaza under a terrorist organization declaring on youtube he doesn't support that terrorist organization? Next you're going to say Kim Jong Il has 100% support in North Koreea because he keeps posting videos of north koreeans professing his love for him.
22 May 21
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@zahlanzi saidHamas is a terrorist organization and was elected into power by Palestinians. Prior to that they had a more moderate party the Fatah / PLO under Arafat which they found to be too peaceful. Hamas has been in power since 2006 or thereabouts. If in 15 years they cannot move them then Hamas has majority support. Is Israel supposed to bomb only Hamas supporters ? What foolishness' you Jew-haters supporters continue to talk.
The simple fact that Hamas kills and tortures palestinians supporting Fatah is sufficient proof of "not every palestinian supports Hamas"
Polls after polls of palestinians living both inside and outside Gaza show them supporting a two state solution (even though Israel tries to erode more and more the possibility of such a solution) and to continue negotiations with Israe ...[text shortened]... pport in North Koreea because he keeps posting videos of north koreeans professing his love for him.
22 May 21
@rajk999 said"Hamas has been in power since 2006 or thereabouts. If in 15 years they cannot move them then Hamas has majority support."
Hamas is a terrorist organization and was elected into power by Palestinians. Prior to that they had a more moderate party the Fatah / PLO under Arafat which they found to be too peaceful. Hamas has been in power since 2006 or thereabouts. If in 15 years they cannot move them then Hamas has majority support. Is Israel supposed to bomb only Hamas supporters ? What foolishness' you Jew-haters supporters continue to talk.
Does North Koreea have majority support? Or is it a brutal dictatorship that rules through fear?
"What foolishness' you Jew-haters supporters continue to talk."
jew haters? are you insane? stating that Israel is an apartheid state where palestinians are second class citizens is not anti-jew, is pro stating the obvious truth.
"Is Israel supposed to bomb only Hamas supporters ?"
No, Israel isn't supposed to bomb any civilians. The fact that you can't grasp that makes you an ashole.
22 May 21
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@zahlanzi saidYou said : No, Israel isn't supposed to bomb any civilians. The fact that you can't grasp that makes you an ashole.
"Hamas has been in power since 2006 or thereabouts. If in 15 years they cannot move them then Hamas has majority support."
Does North Koreea have majority support? Or is it a brutal dictatorship that rules through fear?
"What foolishness' you Jew-haters supporters continue to talk."
jew haters? are you insane? stating that Israel is an apartheid state where palestinia ...[text shortened]... Israel isn't supposed to bomb any civilians. The fact that you can't grasp that makes you an ashole.
Who is Hamas bombing? Hamas sent over 4,000 rockets indiscriminately into Israel, bombing anything and everything. Israel responds with less than 10% of that, bombing selected areas. But Hamas fires rockets from populated areas. IS HAMAS NOT BOMBING CIVILIANS?
Hamans bombs civilians, but the Jews must not bomb civilians And I am the ashole? ???? The fact that you so vehemently support terrorists, crooks, and the dregs of the world, means that you are of a similar mindset. You have the mind of a terrorist. You also want all Jews dead and out of Palestine. You are crooked and ignorant and hypocritical. One law for the Jews and another for Palestinians.
Israel is an apartheid state because there is no other way to live with a group who has vowed in both word and deed to kill you. Hamas wants all Jews dead. There is no other way to live but to keep them away from decent people who want to live. Jews want to live. Hamas and Palestinaians want bloodshed. The Jews are right Keep those killers away from decent people.
22 May 21
The post that was quoted here has been removedHamas would accept a truce if
- Israel withdraws to the 1967 borders,
- paid reparations,
- allowed free elections in the territories,
- gave Palestinian refugees the right to return."
LOL 😀 Losers making demands.
What planet are you jokers living on?
22 May 21
@rajk999 saidArab world:
Hamas would accept a truce if
- Israel withdraws to the 1967 borders,
- paid reparations,
- allowed free elections in the territories,
- gave Palestinian refugees the right to return."
LOL 😀 Losers making demands.
What planet are you jokers living on?
http://www.robinsonlibrary.com/history/asia/arab/graphics/logo.gif
Jewish world:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/ISR_orthographic.svg
Who are you calling losers?
22 May 21
@athousandyoung saidWill give you 3 guesses. You should only need one.
Arab world:
http://www.robinsonlibrary.com/history/asia/arab/graphics/logo.gif
Jewish world:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/ISR_orthographic.svg
Who are you calling losers?
22 May 21
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@rajk999 saidWhat's the difference between Jews and Arabs?
Will give you 3 guesses. You should only need one.
It takes an army and 700 years to kick Arabs out of Spain.
22 May 21
@athousandyoung saidWho said the Jews want to kick them out.
What's the difference between Jews and Arabs?
[hidden]It takes an army 700 years to kick Arabs out of Spain.[/hidden]
22 May 21
@rajk999 saidIsrael when it evicted them from their homes.
Who said the Jews want to kick them out.
22 May 21
@athousandyoung saidPeople get evicted from their homes all the time all over the world. Sometimes they cannot pay the mortgage or they cannot pay their rent, or the lease is up Its a normal occurrence. Whats the big deal.
Israel when it evicted them from their homes.