Originally posted by DelmerIm not suggesting everyone should just accept a socialist doctrine and have done with it. What i am suggesting is that when people are left to fend for themselves, they fight dirty. If the State was taking responsibility for it's citizens safety by removing the lethal threat of fire arms from the streets, people would feel safer and consequently feel less need for a gun.
Good grief, an individual separated from the "collective", what a terrible thought!
Originally posted by SkorjBut even with so many guns around the place, why aren't New Zealander's scared?
Sometimes it's not so much how many guns but whether you feel the need to sleep with one under the pillow.
Keeping a firearms liscense in NZ is apparently pretty hard. My friend has one, he owns two rifles which he only ever uses to shoot some circles on pieces of paper. According to him, a majority of (traffic, assault, loitering with intent etc) offences with an immediate cancellation or suspension of your firearms liscense.
Originally posted by marinakatombThe original Constitutional reasoning behind the "right to bear arms" 2nd amendment was to allow the citizens to protect themselves from the tyranny of the "state". I doubt that it ever entered the mind of the founders that the day would come when political correctness would not allow law abiding citizens to protect themselves from criminals.
Im not suggesting everyone should just accept a socialist doctrine and have done with it. What i am suggesting is that when people are left to fend for themselves, they fight dirty. If the State was taking responsibility for it's citizens safety by removing the lethal threat of fire arms from the streets, people would feel safer and consequently feel less need for a gun.
I'd like to see the person that's being robbed, stabbed or having his skull bashed in try and reason with Mr. Bad.
Nah, not in my house. You're not going to have the chance....
My wife and I are the ONLY two people in the house. You enter MY home, you're leaving on a stretcher.
My wife comes first...bottom line.
Originally posted by SkorjI don't know numbnuts. How about South Africa, Rwanda, The Congo.
Is the US the only place where blacks commit most of the gun murders? The US isn't the only place that a significant portion of the population is black, but if it's the only place where where they commit most of the murders doesn't indicate the problem lies with America and not with blacks?
The thing that amuses me is the relationship between "guns and mexicans".
What is that? You say?
Well. Come along for a moment. They are the same question exactly, but each from a slanted and ignorant point of view.
The Lib says that guns are the cause of killings, robberies, deaths and terrible grief to the nation, if not the world.
The Unlib says that illegals are the cause of killings, robberies, deaths and terrible grief to the nation, if not the world.
You might see a pattern here. One that contains no real thought, but a whole bunch of preconceived silliness.
The Lib says that guns need to be banned.
The Unlib says that illegals need to be banned.
The Lib says that by banning guns, we can prevent all sorts of evils.
The Unlib says that by shutting off the borders, we can prevent all sorts of evils.
The Lib says that guns are used in crimes because they are available.
The Unlib says that illegals commit crimes because they are allowed to come here.
The Lib says that guns can be controled by law.
The Unlib says that the borders can be controled by law.
The Lib says that we need to take guns away from all.
The Unlib says that we need to prevent all from entering the US.
The truth is that a good person with a gun is no danger and that a good person who needs money for his/her family are not a danger.
The truth is that a gun never killed in anger.
The truth is that a good person never killed in anger.
The truth is that a gun is a thing.
The truth is that a mexican is not a thing. A mexican is a being.
The truth is that a bad person with a gun does bad things.
The truth is that a bad mexican does bad things.
The truth is that there are millions of guns and only bad guys will have guns if good guys are outlawed from guns.
The truth is that there are millions of mexicans and only the good guys will turn themselves over to amnesty.
So. Which would you rather face in a fight as you walk to your car from your favorite restaurant? A gun lying alone on a dark sidewalk? Or a Bad guy with a knife?
Which is more dangerous? A migrant worker working for fifty dollars a week, trying to get enough money to bring his/her six kids to California? Or a Gun in a red-necks pickem' up truck?
Which is more dangerous? A gun or a mexican?
Why is it ok to ban either? Based on your silly fears?
I say that no gun crime ever was committed without a human in control.
I say that no mexican ever committed a crime without a mexican in control.
The real problem is crime. The real problem is the bad guy. Whether he has a gun or not. The bad guy is the problem. Be he mexican or not.
But... nobody ever asked me.
<edit> A gun never kills. A good person never kills. Both are immune to this stupid argument. Bad people kill. Bad people commit crime. Bad people are terrorists. Bad people use guns wrongly.
Gee. I see a pattern here. Bad People.
This seems quite self evident, but there are redneck libs and anti-libs who will always refuse the obvious. WHY DON'T WE CATCH AND/OR KILL THE BAD PEOPLE? And forget the crap about guns and aliens?