18 Nov 20
@no1marauder saidYou omitted the entire tweet.
Please. He's already twitted regarding Georgia's recount:
"Their recount is a scam, means nothing."
https://www.newsweek.com/georgia-trump-supporters-some-armed-protest-election-amid-states-voting-recount-1547559
His little boy ego will never allow him to publicly admit he was beaten in the election.
"The Fake recount going on in Georgia means nothing because they are not allowing signatures to be looked at and verified. Break the unconstitutional Consent Decree!"
He said they are not allowing signatures to be looked at and verified. Is that true?
@metal-brain said"Requiring hard evidence is a silly criteria."
I'm sure dictatorships around the world say the same thing when people allege election rigging. There is probable cause for a recount here in MI.
Requiring hard evidence is a silly criteria. All evidence of election fraud is found after recounts. All that should be required is probable cause. We have that in MI.
People that rig elections hide evidence so it is almos ...[text shortened]... It is found by investigating and it is suppressed by not investigating. That is how it really works.
That's really all you need to say.
18 Nov 20
@no1marauder saidWhen in world history has hard evidence ever been found before a recount exposed evidence of election rigging? Has it ever happened?
"Requiring hard evidence is a silly criteria."
That's really all you need to say.
@metal-brain saidHe knows they can't because once the signatures on the envelopes containing the absentee ballots are verified, the envelopes are discarded:
You omitted the entire tweet.
"The Fake recount going on in Georgia means nothing because they are not allowing signatures to be looked at and verified. Break the unconstitutional Consent Decree!"
He said they are not allowing signatures to be looked at and verified. Is that true?
"Once the information on the oath envelope is verified, the registrar will compare your absentee ballot oath envelope to your voter registration card to verify your signature, as well as compare your signature on the ballot envelope with your signature on the absentee application. On Election Day, the ballot and the envelope are separated to ensure confidentiality of the ballot. This process, and the processing and counting of absentee ballots shall be open to the public.
If the absentee ballot is challenged, and that challenge is upheld, the ballot remains in the envelope, is not counted, and the reason is indicated on the envelope. "
https://sos.ga.gov/admin/uploads/Absentee_Voting_Guide_20142.pdf
"In reality, Georgia officials were legally required to verify all mail-in ballots prior to their initial count two weeks ago by comparing the signatures that appear on ballot envelopes to the ones in each voter’s file, a process that appears to have taken place.
It is likely impossible to verify signatures for individual ballots a second time during the recount process because, as the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported Saturday, all mail-in ballots have already been separated from their envelopes."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/11/16/trump-repeats-inaccurate-claims-about-georgias-fake-recount/?sh=62a52abebd82
That's not something you would ever check in a recount anyway.
18 Nov 20
@no1marauder saidIt is impossible for you to know that.
Trump lost Michigan by almost 150,000 votes. A recount there would be a total waste of time and money.
18 Nov 20
@metal-brain saidWhy not have a recount in California? Or Texas? Or Florida?
It is impossible for you to know that.
At some point this nonsense has to stop. No recount in American history ever changed an outcome by more than a few hundred votes or so. Your far out, evidence free conspiracy theories are no reason to waste time and money to show what every sane person already knows.
@no1marauder saidThe claim this was the safest election in history is without evidence. Without a recount there is no possible evidence they know that to be true.
Why not have a recount in California? Or Texas? Or Florida?
At some point this nonsense has to stop. No recount in American history ever changed an outcome by more than a few hundred votes or so. Your far out, evidence free conspiracy theories are no reason to waste time and money to show what every sane person already knows.
"At some point this nonsense has to stop."
Are you suggesting the recount underway in Georgia be stopped before it is finished?
"No recount in American history ever changed an outcome by more than a few hundred votes or so."
How many POTUS election recounts have there been? You have demonstrated only one that was completed. Is one single example a fair representation of history predicting outcome? I think not. Besides, can you rule out a first time? Of course not, nobody can.
If you went into court and said this was the most secure election in American history you would go to jail for perjury. It is a clearly false statement. You have no evidence!
@metal-brain said“ If you went into court and said this was the most secure election in American history you would go to jail for perjury. It is a clearly false statement. You have no evidence!”
The claim this was the safest election in history is without evidence. Without a recount there is no possible evidence they know that to be true.
"At some point this nonsense has to stop."
Are you suggesting the recount underway in Georgia be stopped before it is finished?
"No recount in American history ever changed an outcome by more than a few hundred votes or ...[text shortened]... can history you would go to jail for perjury. It is a clearly false statement. You have no evidence!
So you are demanding evidence that there was not wide spread voter fraud and you think you know how courts work!
How would you like to appear in court and have to prove that you haven’t murdered somebody even though there isn’t evidence of a murder or that anyone has even died.
If you go to court and claim someone defrauded the election you must at the very least have evidence of fraud. Not demand evidence of non fraud, stop being ridiculous.
18 Nov 20
@kevcvs57 saidHow could anyone know the election is the most secure election in American history without a recount?
“ If you went into court and said this was the most secure election in American history you would go to jail for perjury. It is a clearly false statement. You have no evidence!”
So you are demanding evidence that there was not wide spread voter fraud and you think you know how courts work!
How would you like to appear in court and have to prove that you haven’t murdered so ...[text shortened]... t at the very least have evidence of fraud. Not demand evidence of non fraud, stop being ridiculous.
That is impossible to know without a completed recount. Anybody who claims otherwise is a liar.
18 Nov 20
@metal-brain saidThe guy that knew was the head of the government organisation that monitors the election for fraud, specifically the counting machines, they are monitored for interference and dysfunction.
How could anyone know the election is the most secure election in American history without a recount?
That is impossible to know without a completed recount. Anybody who claims otherwise is a liar.
He was sacked by Trump for knowing and declaring what he knew. It’s classic despotic behaviour to shoot the messenger.
18 Nov 20
@metal-brain saidPeople are going to court and judges aren't asking the lawyers for the States to "prove" their wasn't fraud; they're asking the plantiffs to present evidence there was. And further, that such fraud had a reasonable possibility of changing the result of the election in the States where the lawsuits were brought.
The claim this was the safest election in history is without evidence. Without a recount there is no possible evidence they know that to be true.
"At some point this nonsense has to stop."
Are you suggesting the recount underway in Georgia be stopped before it is finished?
"No recount in American history ever changed an outcome by more than a few hundred votes or ...[text shortened]... can history you would go to jail for perjury. It is a clearly false statement. You have no evidence!
So no, they are not ordering recounts or anything else based on the "who knows what might have happened" rationale you are relying on.
@Metal-Brain
So Biden is ahead by say a hundred thousand votes and there are ONE thousand contested. Do the math, troll, it's not rocket science.
Your motivation and that of the rest of the Republican Trump cult is to delay delay and more delay to make sure it will be that much more difficult to deal with the real issues facing the US. Oh, like a FUKKING QUARTER MILLION dead from C19.
But Trump and the rest of the cabal, no big deal, FAKE NEWS.
You can't even IMAGINE how out of touch with reality you and the rest of your cult really are.
18 Nov 20
@kevcvs57 said"specifically the counting machines, they are monitored for interference and dysfunction."
The guy that knew was the head of the government organisation that monitors the election for fraud, specifically the counting machines, they are monitored for interference and dysfunction.
He was sacked by Trump for knowing and declaring what he knew. It’s classic despotic behaviour to shoot the messenger.
What is your source of information?
@no1marauder saidHow many POTUS election recounts have there been? You have demonstrated only one that was completed and it changed the outcome in that state. Is one single example a fair representation of history predicting outcome? I think not. Besides, can you rule out a first time? Of course not, nobody can.
People are going to court and judges aren't asking the lawyers for the States to "prove" their wasn't fraud; they're asking the plantiffs to present evidence there was. And further, that such fraud had a reasonable possibility of changing the result of the election in the States where the lawsuits were brought.
So no, they are not ordering recounts or anything else based on the "who knows what might have happened" rationale you are relying on.
You really don't have any convincing historical precedence with only one recount that changed the outcome in that state. The truth is nobody knows. At least I am willing to admit the obvious. Nobody knows. The only people claiming they do are liars.
It will be interesting how much difference Georgia's recount is to the first count. I'm just glad one is happening. It has been long overdue.
@Metal-Brain
You still don't get it. If there are 99% counted and say there are 1 million votes, then there are 10,000 votes yet to count.
So if candidate A is up by 20,000 votes, can you figure the result of that election?
It is clear you and the rest of the Trumpite cult just want to delay delay and more delay, KNOWING they AND you are dead wrong, that a recount will have a chance of getting your god Trump 4 more years.
The reality is after Jan.20 Trump may get another 4 years but not as POTUS but as Prisoner 1958454.