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Hawaii Drops Universal Health Care Scheme

Hawaii Drops Universal Health Care Scheme

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Hawaii, the only U.S. state to offer universal child health care, is dropping the program just seven months after launching it.

Gov. Linda Lingle's administration cites budget shortfalls and other health care options for eliminating the program. A state official complained that the program was aimed at helping low-income people and immigrants, but that better-off families were dropping private coverage so their children would be eligible for the subsidized plan:

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hLmnk2nJW1GlWETxZ5EknjKJCYgg

I say Aloha and good riddance! This proves once again that there's no such thing a free lunch.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Hawaii, the only U.S. state to offer universal child health care, is dropping the program just seven months after launching it.

Gov. Linda Lingle's administration cites budget shortfalls and other health care options for eliminating the program. A state official complained that the program was aimed at helping low-income people and immigrants, ...[text shortened]... I say Aloha and good riddance! This proves once again that there's no such thing a free lunch.
Isn't the quality supposed to be really bad? Why were all the healthy families using it? 😲

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No, it proves that the system implemented in Hawaii was inefficient.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
No, it proves that the system implemented in Hawaii was inefficient.
That's right. They were giving the kids a much higher level of medical care than was necessary. Lower the cost. Lower the level of care! It works in Socialist nations!

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Originally posted by Eladar
That's right. They were giving the kids a much higher level of medical care than was necessary. Lower the cost. Lower the level of care! It works in Socialist nations!
Can you name a Socialist nation? No looking it up in Wikipedia.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Hawaii, the only U.S. state to offer universal child health care, is dropping the program just seven months after launching it.

Gov. Linda Lingle's administration cites budget shortfalls and other health care options for eliminating the program. A state official complained that the program was aimed at helping low-income people and immigrants, ...[text shortened]... I say Aloha and good riddance! This proves once again that there's no such thing a free lunch.
I don't understand your argument.
You've stated in your post that:

1) It was popular.
2) It was underfunded.

What failed seems to be the state government not the program itself.

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Originally posted by DeepThought
I don't understand your argument.
You've stated in your post that:

1) It was popular.
2) It was underfunded.

What failed seems to be the state government not the program itself.
Oh, don't go pointing out their lack of logic in their argument or they will call you a Left Wing, Socialist-Communist.

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Originally posted by CliffLandin
Can you name a Socialist nation? No looking it up in Wikipedia.
I'm calling any nation with Socialized Health Care a Socialist nation. When you national health care, you have nationalized a major part of your economy.

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Originally posted by Eladar
I'm calling any nation with Socialized Health Care a Socialist nation. When you national health care, you have nationalized a major part of your economy.
So Socialism is tied directly to health care and only health care. Gotcha. I really appreciate your point of view. It is interesting to see someone so wrong continually spout their nonsense. Keep it up.

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Socialism is tied to nationalizing parts of the private economy.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Socialism is tied to nationalizing parts of the private economy.
Are you calling the U.S. of A Socialist? Are you calling yourself a Socialist? This is refreshing.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Socialism is tied to nationalizing parts of the private economy.
Such as the police force, fire department, army and major parts of infrastructure and industry (e.g. subsidies to GM and farmers)?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Such as the police force, fire department, army and major parts of infrastructure and industry (e.g. subsidies to GM and farmers)?
No silly its only counts as socialism if its parts of the economy he disapproves of.... So long as his tax dollars are going to businesses and not the great unwashed masses he doesn't mind. That and going into the police/military etc to keeep the great unwashed away from him......

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Originally posted by Eladar
I'm calling any nation with Socialized Health Care a Socialist nation. When you national health care, you have nationalized a major part of your economy.
Learn about circular arguments.

Then consider what you have just written.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Hawaii, the only U.S. state to offer universal child health care, is dropping the program just seven months after launching it.

Gov. Linda Lingle's administration cites budget shortfalls and other health care options for eliminating the program. A state official complained that the program was aimed at helping low-income people and immigrants, ...[text shortened]... I say Aloha and good riddance! This proves once again that there's no such thing a free lunch.
Health care isn't cheap.
That's the whole reason why one wants everyone to pay for it, so that nobody is left out.

And I see no reason why wealthy people shouldn't benefit from it either.

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