Hawaiian Sovereignty

Originally posted by pawnhandler
Actually, at this point it wouldn't bother me if the Confederate States decided to secede today.

It wouldn't bother me either since we have most of the manufacturing plants, oil, farmland, ect. etc. Be careful what you wish for.

Originally posted by slimjim
It wouldn't bother me either since we have most of the manufacturing plants, oil, farmland, ect. etc. Be careful what you wish for.

Seems to me I saw a ton of farms in Wisconsin and Illinois. But that's not my point. My point is that if a chunk of land wants to be independent, go for it. It's from the perspective of watching so many peoples fight for their freedom. If a third of the country wants to separate, go for it. Why would I cheer other people on but stand in your way?

Originally posted by pawnhandler
Seems to me I saw a ton of farms in Wisconsin and Illinois. But that's not my point. My point is that if a chunk of land wants to be independent, go for it. It's from the perspective of watching so many peoples fight for their freedom. If a third of the country wants to separate, go for it. Why would I cheer other people on but stand in your way?

Seems to me I saw a ton of farms in Wisconsin and Illinois.

And California. We're still pumping oil here too, though I don't know how much we have relative to other states.

Originally posted by Redmike
I've less knowledge of US politics, but I wasn't aware that was the case.

Even if a majority of people in a state express a which to get out of the US, then they can't do so?

I'm not disputing what you're saying, just expressing my surprise.

In the example of the Confederate States of America, the majority declared secession and look what it go them. Maybe in theory they could secede, but it is unlikely you're going to see Hawaii or San Francisco secede from the union.

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
In the example of the Confederate States of America, the majority declared secession and look what it go them. Maybe in theory they could secede, but it is unlikely you're going to see Hawaii or San Francisco secede from the union.

How about if all the other states vote San Francisco off the planet? they could become the first human colony on Uranus

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
[b]Seems to me I saw a ton of farms in Wisconsin and Illinois.

And California. We're still pumping oil here too, though I don't know how much we have relative to other states.[/b]

Probably more than you know if the envirowhackos would allow off shore drilling and exploration again. Just think California could take the royalities from expanded exploration and use the money to pay off some that horrible state debt. And give the taxpayers of California a break. Or knowing Arnold, hed spend it on health care for illegal immigrants and to Hades with the citizens of California

Originally posted by SMSBear716
How about if all the other states vote San Francisco off the planet? they could become the first human colony on Uranus

You obviously meant Dianne Finestein's anus?