@sonhouse saidI have no problem per se of ranking Trump low (though below people like Hoover is pushing it). But putting Biden above Reagan is absolutely laughable and shows that the surveyed population is extremely biased.
https://www.axios.com/2024/02/19/presidents-survey-trump-ranks-last-biden-14th
Biden listed at #14, Trump dead last.
Which is what I have said for years.
@sh76
Your opinion is your own and nobody would deny your right to say that. I just pushed out the latest list and it is like chess ratings, it also shows what the old rating was, up 3, down 4 kind of thing.
Reagan did say
'tear down that wall' but in reality the Soviet union was on its way out anyway.
They were in shambles and maybe Reagan pulled the final straw but they were on their way out as a world force.
But behind Reagan or ahead, it makes little matter in the bigger picture, regardless of what historians say 50 years from now, it puts Biden in the top 20 and Trump at the bottom of the list and I think future historians would put him lower than that if they could🙂
Trump is the worst president as far as least competent, least intelligent and least qualified.
But other presidents have had way more disastrous effects, like Bush starting two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, Andrew Jackson's brutal treatment of Native Americans or Nixon's tactics in Vietnam, etc.
@sonhouse saidReagan also president over a very strong economic era and a peaceful one, at that, that saw an ascendant US on every level.
@sh76
Your opinion is your own and nobody would deny your right to say that. I just pushed out the latest list and it is like chess ratings, it also shows what the old rating was, up 3, down 4 kind of thing.
Reagan did say
'tear down that wall' but in reality the Soviet union was on its way out anyway.
They were in shambles and maybe Reagan pulled the final straw but t ...[text shortened]... t the bottom of the list and I think future historians would put him lower than that if they could🙂
The only reason not to rank Reagan very high would be a philosophical opposition to his supply side economics. Of course people are entitled to hold that position, but once they let that opinion interfere with their Presidential rankings, they're just being political.
@sh76 saidReagan is credited with ushering the "trickle-down" economics era where more importance is given to the rich than most Americans (like his social security cuts).
I have no problem per se of ranking Trump low (though below people like Hoover is pushing it). But putting Biden above Reagan is absolutely laughable and shows that the surveyed population is extremely biased.
His war on drugs was also quite disastrous particularly with unfair treatment and targeting of minorities.
See this article:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jun/08/usa.comment
@sh76
Even Hoover didn't cause a near miss in taking over the government by force. Trump is and will be considered an insurrectionist a hundred years from now, that is his legacy.
As for bills passed, Biden got more bills passed in his first four than just about any other POTUS in US history and the ultrarightwingnut crowd tries desperately to make it look like Biden did nothing but for instance he got the infrastructure bill passed in bipartisan votes when Trump couldn't get that one passed even though he owned house and senate.
@sonhouse saidBut Hoover did cause the Great Depression, which had world-wide effects, not just here in America.
@sh76
Even Hoover didn't cause a near miss in taking over the government by force. Trump is and will be considered an insurrectionist a hundred years from now, that is his legacy.
As for bills passed, Biden got more bills passed in his first four than just about any other POTUS in US history and the ultrarightwingnut crowd tries desperately to make it look like Biden did n ...[text shortened]... d in bipartisan votes when Trump couldn't get that one passed even though he owned house and senate.
@sh76 saidRaygun sucked peanuts.
I have no problem per se of ranking Trump low (though below people like Hoover is pushing it). But putting Biden above Reagan is absolutely laughable and shows that the surveyed population is extremely biased.
A senile old git who untethered the worst form of capitalism which has led to mass poverty and the end of the American dream.
@shavixmir
He also though if he launched the nukes, if he changed his mind he could call them back. I guess pulling a Musk and landing on it's tail or something🙂
@sh76 saidHe was friends with the bitch thatcher thus he should be bottom of the list and Nancy was the power behind the throne, didn’t she talk to dead people and dream about Armageddon.
Reagan also president over a very strong economic era and a peaceful one, at that, that saw an ascendant US on every level.
The only reason not to rank Reagan very high would be a philosophical opposition to his supply side economics. Of course people are entitled to hold that position, but once they let that opinion interfere with their Presidential rankings, they're just being political.
If you invite c list Hollywood and reality tv stars into the White House you should lower your expectations dramatically but Reagan did at least have principles and stuck with them. Didn’t he also start the disastrous ‘war on drugs’ which killed untold numbers of people
@kevcvs57 saidHere is an example of how the poll is skewed. Maragaret Thatcher considered Socialism to be hell on earth, a concept which would lead to the demise of any country. History books and common sense would tell you that. If govt ended up owning Apple, we would not likely get their wonderful service, would we. If you book
He was friends with the bitch thatcher thus he should be bottom of the list and Nancy was the power behind the throne, didn’t she talk to dead people and dream about Armageddon.
If you invite c list Hollywood and reality tv stars into the White House you should lower your expectations dramatically but Reagan did at least have principles and stuck with them. Didn’t he also start the disastrous ‘war on drugs’ which killed untold numbers of people
a cruise, the Seafare Cruise company has hundreds of people at your beck and call 24/7 to answer any question you have. You would not get service with socialism. So;, we all agree on that.
Yet, if Kev were one of those polled, he would put Biden right up on top because he is a socialist. So would the rest of you. So, if we make that same poll here on RHP, Biden would likely be #1. Everyone voted their feeeeeeelllliings.
Ya'll would not vote Trump because you just don't like him. I don't like him either but I would vote for him.
I cant WAIT for Trump!
@AverageJoe1
I can wait. Like about 30 years. He might even be eligible for parole by then.
You really don't get it. Unless you do and APPROVE of Trump taking over by force or at least attempting to do so, fake electors, I don't suppose you want to be reminded of Jan 6 and how he said NOTHING for 3 hours, instead munching popcorn and watching the carnage where people DIED killing the idea of peaceful transfer of power.
If elected again by some nasty quirk of fate he will announce himself dictator and presumably he will again own the senate and house and pass laws giving him unlimited power, especially that part allowing him to go after his enemies, like Rachel Maddow and the like. ANY democrat would be under his gun.
But that is what you want, you want the end of democracy because you think it is a failed experiment.
@sonhouse saidTell us something you don't like about Biden.
@AverageJoe1
I can wait. Like about 30 years. He might even be eligible for parole by then.
You really don't get it. Unless you do and APPROVE of Trump taking over by force or at least attempting to do so, fake electors, I don't suppose you want to be reminded of Jan 6 and how he said NOTHING for 3 hours, instead munching popcorn and watching the carnage where people DIED ...[text shortened]... ut that is what you want, you want the end of democracy because you think it is a failed experiment.
@averagejoe1 saidMarggie thatcher was a scumbag corporate bitch who cast millions onto the dole queue and their children into poverty
Here is an example of how the poll is skewed. Maragaret Thatcher considered Socialism to be hell on earth, a concept which would lead to the demise of any country. History books and common sense would tell you that. If govt ended up owning Apple, we would not likely get their wonderful service, would we. If you book
a cruise, the Seafare Cruise company has hundreds of ...[text shortened]... ou just don't like him. I don't like him either but I would vote for him.
I cant WAIT for Trump!
Hated by anyone that wasn’t a yuppie or got richer when she sold off national assets like the power / water companies and millions of social houses
There’s a reason why “the witch is dead” was the most popular song in the UK at the time of her funeral.