Originally posted by AndrewKnottThat's part of my point. The kids who are inherently mean are thrown into a very large, and mostly unsupervised, social group. They go and teach other kids their violent ways.
Not necessarily true though.
Depends on the individual and their specific upbringing.
When I was in school nothing really happened at school though, we were smart and saved fights for around the neighborhood. That way nobody would be there to stop it, and no getting in truoble with the school. Only trouble we then got into was with parents, if th ...[text shortened]... one.
But then you get into a nurture (sp?) vs nature thing.
Some kids are just born mean.
Originally posted by SwissGambitBut you are saying this always happens at school. And I'm saying it doesn't.
That's part of my point. The kids who [b]are inherently mean are thrown into a very large, and mostly unsupervised, social group. They go and teach other kids their violent ways.[/b]
And I stated a reason why this is not necessarily the case.
Originally posted by AndrewKnottNo, I'm not saying it always happens. I am speaking from my own experience interacting with other public-schooled kids I grew up with, and former public school students that I've talked to. Re-read my first posts in the thread.
But you are saying this always happens at school. And I'm saying it doesn't.
And I stated a reason why this is not necessarily the case.
I just finished my freshman year of high school a few weeks ago (at a public school). We had a homeschooled boy in our class this year. He was one of the top students in the class, but probably about the weirdest kid I've ever met. He dated a girl for two months, and never even kissed her on the cheek. He had trouble taking a joke (and it took him forever to understand the concept of "that's what she said" ). He eventually joined the football team, but whenever the players talked about sex, he knew it was "bad," and that's about it (he had no idea what happens, any other positions than missionary, or what any type of foreplay was).
I'm not sure if this was because of his homeschooling (and not getting normal social/sexually related experiences with other peers), or his extreme religious upbringing ("Sex is a sin, even when you're married, because you're having impure thoughts while doing it." ). But I'm sure that not having any social interaction with people his age didn't help either. He received no sex education, from his parents, or his "pre-approved" homeschooled friends (who received none from their parents). He also seemed to lack a basic sense of humor, I suppose since most of the time he was with other kids was to do group projects and stuff.
If you do decide to homeschool your children it's important to see that they interact with people outside the homeschooling community. I think some schools offer programs where homeschooled kids can come to public school for a few hours a day, play sports, or learn to play an instrument, and go on field trips. I think this would be the best situation for most kids, even if they don't mature as quick. We're not supposed to be all grown up at 14. And it doesn't put your child at a severe disadvantage if they still laugh at "that's what she said" jokes. Life sucks; let your kid be a kid for as long as possible.
Originally posted by SwissGambitI went to public school and I never learned those behaviors. In contrast, I learned how to work in a team, how to be a leader, how to be diplomatic and how to talk (BS) my way through nearly every situation. It is those sort of social skills that get a person through a job interview.
I grew up homeschooled in a neighborhood with mostly public schooled kids. The impression I got is that public school taught them a lot of bad social behavior, like jeering and ostracizing the unpopular/awkward kids, spoiling for fights, and learning to hate doing actual schoolwork.
Originally posted by DraxusGood for you, although public school certainly isn't the only place to learn those skills.
I went to public school and I never learned those behaviors. In contrast, I learned how to work in a team, how to be a leader, how to be diplomatic and how to talk (BS) my way through nearly every situation. It is those sort of social skills that get a person through a job interview.
I don't deny that public school has social benefits for some; I just take exception to those who romanticize the experience as some sort of ideal, even necessary, social training.
Originally posted by Draxusoh, and how old are you? Public schools 30 years ago were way better then they are now IMO, ask anyone over 50 what they think of our teens, and they will probably say the same thing as me.
I went to public school and I never learned those behaviors. In contrast, I learned how to work in a team, how to be a leader, how to be diplomatic and how to talk (BS) my way through nearly every situation. It is those sort of social skills that get a person through a job interview.
Actually I never had an Interview, Every job I applied for, I just sent in my resume and got a call asking when I could come to work. One employer told me that he hires Homeschoolers right on the spot, no questions asked, and that his best employees were homeschoolers.
Not to brag or anything... 🙂
Disclaimer: This is not necessary the view of all employers, just what I have observed in my area and in my line of work.
Originally posted by techsouthIt will make them a truely unique and amazing person. They will not have there individuality stampe out of them by kids who will give them a hard time if they do not follow the norm.
This is something I'm considering.
Good, bad, indifferent?
In England secondary school is one of the most awful places.
Sith form however is great.
Originally posted by Draxusoh, and how old are you? Public schools 30 years ago were way better then they are now IMO
No, I am serious. What does my age have anything to do with this discussion?
It seems to me that he thinks people of different ages have had different experiences in public schools due to the schools changing over the years.