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11 May 21
12 May 21
@athousandyoung saidYou do realise you could swap ‘Anglo’ for ‘Spanish’ or ‘Portuguese’ in that description.
This is how you described Anglo-Americans:
[Anglo Americans started] a society separate from the peoples who [were] already here. [Killed] them off, [brought] diseases. [They plundered them]. This is serious. Like, [did] they know what trespass is?
12 May 21
@no1marauder saidLet me fix that ridiculous claim:
Would this surprise you:
"48 percent of immigrants who entered the country between 2014 and 2019 held bachelor’s degrees or higher, compared to 33 percent of the U.S.-born and overall immigrant populations."
"48 percent of LEGAL immigrants entering the country had bachelor's degrees."
Pretty sure illegal immigrants barely had grade school educations, if that.
12 May 21
@dood111 saidPerhaps if your colleague learned how to frame a question there would be no confusion, no mention of illegal immigration as far I can see.
Let me fix that ridiculous claim:
"48 percent of LEGAL immigrants entering the country had bachelor's degrees."
Pretty sure illegal immigrants barely had grade school educations, if that.
But I bet your utterly wrong in your sweeping statement regarding illegal immigrants too.
Most studies would probably show that it is the best educated and motivated individuals that migrate, legally and illegally.
12 May 21
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@kevcvs57 saidHow do you explain the differing demographics in the Anglo and Latin American countries? Why are the Anglo countries so much whiter? Why are there Indian reservations in the USA but not Mexico? I explain it by saying that obviously there were differences in how the Anglo and Latin imperialists abused the indigenous people but you don’t seem to agree so what is your explanation?
You do realise you could swap ‘Anglo’ for ‘Spanish’ or ‘Portuguese’ in that description.
The reservations exist because the Anglos started a society SEPARATE from what was already here while the Hispanics conquered the society that was already here.
@kevcvs57 saidYeah I'm sure the 170,000 people stopped at the border last month were college grads.
Most studies would probably show that it is the best educated and motivated individuals that migrate, legally and illegally.
You are just making stuff up with that stupid claim that "most studies" would "probably show most illegal immigrants" to be among the best educated....
What an ignorant thing to say.
12 May 21
@athousandyoung saidIt’s Culture. How could the easterners wagon-training the Oregon Trail be expected to adopt Indian culture? Or vice-versa?
How do you explain the differing demographics in the Anglo and Latin American countries? Why are the Anglo countries so much whiter? Why are there Indian reservations in the USA but not Mexico? I explain it by saying that obviously there were differences in how the Anglo and Latin imperialists abused the indigenous people but you don’t seem to agree so what is your exp ...[text shortened]... SEPARATE from what was already here while the Hispanics conquered the society that was already here.
Culture.
Not race.
Actually, the logical result should have been that the easterners should have acclimated to Indian life. It was Indian country. But the Indians were not fast enough to establish their dominance, their country. Today’s America gets to do that, so it follows that the SAmericans MUST acclimate to our culture. Pretty simple stuff.
12 May 21
@averagejoe1 saidMight makes right huh?
It’s Culture. How could the easterners wagon-training the Oregon Trail be expected to adopt Indian culture? Or vice-versa?
Culture.
Not race.
Actually, the logical result should have been that the easterners should have acclimated to Indian life. It was Indian country. But the Indians were not fast enough to establish their dominance, their country. Today’ ...[text shortened]... ts to do that, so it follows that the SAmericans MUST acclimate to our culture. Pretty simple stuff.
What if they don't assimilate?
12 May 21
@athousandyoung saidDid you grow up in Care Bear Land or Candy Cane Lane?
Might makes right huh?
What if they don't assimilate?
12 May 21
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@dood111 saidNo I grew up in La Ciudad de Nuestra Señora, Reina de Los Angeles del Rio Porciuncula en Alta California.
Did you grow up in Care Bear Land or Candy Cane Lane?
Same place you grew up.
I grew up with a father who employed mestizo immigrants who didn’t speak English. I went to school with los Avenues and I have a cousin in 18th St. He’s been in prison for the last 30 years. I used to work in Pico-Union, the neighborhood that gave birth to Mara Salvatrucha 13.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/07/u-s-hispanic-population-surpassed-60-million-in-2019-but-growth-has-slowed/
12 May 21
@athousandyoung saidAnd still you whine about the Native Americans being taken over by Europeans here 500 years ago, like they wouldn't have done the same thing.
No I grew up in La Ciudad de Nuestra Señora, Reina de Los Angeles del Rio Porciuncula en Alta California.
Same place you grew up.
For that matter, the Amerindians were always trying to take over the tribe over the next hill. Their history is one of warfare, torture, and making slaves out of whoever they conquered.
Don't even get started on how they treated their women. Their cultures were vicious violent and going nowhere.
12 May 21
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@dood111 saidI criticize the Anglos for their policy of extermination and replacement. That's not something everyone does everywhere.
And still you whine about the Native Americans being taken over by Europeans here 500 years ago, like they wouldn't have done the same thing.
For that matter, the Amerindians were always trying to take over the tribe over the next hill. Their history is one of warfare, torture, and making slaves out of whoever they conquered.
Don't even get started on how they treated their women. Their cultures were vicious violent and going nowhere.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/30/how-american-racism-influenced-hitler
in “Mein Kampf,” Hitler praises America as the one state that has made progress toward a primarily racial conception of citizenship, by “excluding certain races from naturalization.”
12 May 21
@dood111 saidAnd saying, "They're rapists" is NOT ignorant?
Yeah I'm sure the 170,000 people stopped at the border last month were college grads.
You are just making stuff up with that stupid claim that "most studies" would "probably show most illegal immigrants" to be among the best educated....
What an ignorant thing to say.
12 May 21
@kevcvs57 saidThey should teach what I said. That, a future employer, like AvJoe, would not hire a person who has a background of collecting unemployment and, worse, pukey govt handouts. What kind of employee, what kind of man, would do that.
Every parent should warn their kids about the average joes in the world, it should also be mandatory in education as part of the political science curriculum.
Or maybe on a map they could print the legend “Here be Idiots”.
It is no different than teaching a teenager that everything he puts on Facebook will follow him forever.
I am correct, but you fellers do anything you can to pick a fight.